Gee I blame McCain for his stupid stance on the surge is working, it worked, Obama wouldn't this that and the surge. I was waiting for this. Any person with half a clear brain would realize these people would make the surge look useless. If for nothing else getting back at the choice for president they hate. McCain. But this also shows how desperate they are. Life means nothing to them as long as they win in the end. And once (IF) they win what is life worth. We saw that before.

4 female bombers strike in Iraq, killing 57 By SELCAN HACAOGLU, Associated Press Writer
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BAGHDAD - Female suicide bombers struck a Shiite pilgrimage in Baghdad and a Kurdish protest rally in northern Iraq on Monday, killing at least 57 people and wounding nearly 300, police said.

Three women detonated their explosive vests in the middle of pilgrims in Baghdad, moments after a roadside bomb attack, killing at least 32 people and wounding 102, Iraqi officials said.

In the oil-rich northern city of Kirkuk, 25 people were killed and 185 wounded when a blast tore through a crowd of Kurds protesting a draft provincial elections law, officials said.

Police spokesman Brig. Gen. Burhan Tayeb Taha said the bomber was a woman, saying he had seen the remains. The U.S. military confirmed a suicide bombing but said it had no indication the attacker was a woman.

Authorities clamped a 3 p.m.-6 a.m. curfew on the city, which is home to Kurds, Turkomen, Arabs and smaller groups.

The bombings — among the deadliest this year — were a devastating blow to the Iraqi public's growing confidence in recent security gains that have seen violence in Iraq drop to its lowest levels in more than four years.

Such attacks are increasingly carried out by women, who are more easily able to hide explosives under their all-encompassing black Islamic robes, or abayas, and often are not searched at checkpoints.

In a bid to improve the ability to search women, the U.S. military has stepped up recruitment and training efforts for women in the police force and as members of U.S.-allied Sunni groups that have joined forces against al-Qaida in Iraq.

Iraqi security forces deployed about 200 women this week to search female pilgrims near the northern Baghdad neighborhood of Kazimiyah, where the Shiite saint Imam Moussa al-Kadhim is buried in a golden domed shrine.

Complete story @ 4 female bombers strike in Iraq, killing 57 - Yahoo! News

If I were to report every homocide in America, will you say that America is a lost cause as well?...

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If I were to post every story of our success in Iraq, would that convince you that Iraq is a success?? How about this:

or this...

or this...

or how about this...

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Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Military success will never equate a victory in Iraq. It is political success on behalf of the Iraqi government followed by self enforcement.

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No...It's both...

When the first free elections were being held in the opening throes of the war, the left kept reminding us that political gains mean nothing without the military attachments...

Then, of course, when the surge started to succeed, it was a 180 and cries of "militay gains mean nothing without the political attachments."...

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"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd

Because the right has been right on the money. You should take a look at the war under a Republican POTUS and Congress. And since the election that put Democrats in power and you'll see that we have done better in Iraq and with caring for our military since the Dems took over Congress. Now when Obama wins we all get to win.


Don't ya just hate it when I say those things? ?

You didn't read what I posted, did you?? I spoon fed you information and you still missed it...
One post was about a strictly Coalition operation, one post was about a joint IA/Coalition action, one post was about a strictly IA operation and one was about unification among Iraq's Shiites/Sunnis. You are so focused on finding ways to denigrate what we are doing that you won't even take three minutes to stop and get just a little bit of truth. Sad, sad, sad.....

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Yes, because you're taking credit for the fruit of long term plans coming to maturity during the Dems. leadership in Congress. Without the plan being put in place and followed through on during the Reps. time in the majority, there would be no current success. You're taking credit for someone else's efforts.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

There is no way of saying what would have happened because we ill never know. Maybe the threat of a draw down would have forced reconciliation. We won't know. Without pressure on Bush we would likely still be dealing with Rummy's foolishness. I'll bet with Gore in office we would already have hanged Bin Laden. He could of par laid worldwide support in to pressure on radical regimes. Like Iraq. But again we will never know.

When McCain voted for war he argues that the intel was bad. So he has an easy out he thinks. The facts were not that the intel was bad. It was the the intel commitees were rolled. And didn't force the administrations hand on the proof. So McCain didn't do his job in the beginning.

Since McCain decided to come out for off shore drillng a couple of weeks ago he has recieve 1.1 million from big oil. I guess that is just a coincidence.

We have evidence from Paul Oniell that Bush was talking about wanting to go after Saddam at their first cabinet meeting. So he was planning to do this from long before 9-11. If you think he was right or wrong to be focused so much on Saddam at the time. One thing is for sure. It wasn't an emergency to get Saddam when we did. It was purely the goal of Bush. So McCain is pretending to go along with things he knows are false.

It appears that getting radicals like al sadr to stand down has been a big part of the success. And did the surge cause that? No. It appears that diplomacy is what has paid dividends. Shock and awe cost us billions in repairs and lives. So now there is someone on the ground who thinks with his head. And doesn't let the testosterone do the talking. Using your head what a concept. Maybe if we would have used a brain in the first place we would still have 4500 Americans we don't have now.

McCain let party come before the troops before. When the Dems wanted to have hearings in to profiteering in the war McCain wouldn't attend. In fact "NO" republicans would attend. Because they thought it would just be an attack on Haliburton. Maybe it would have. But there was profiteering to the tune of billions. But politics was more important.

Iraqi military forces are different than Iraqi government at work. Our military is much more efficient than our government proper. I ignored nothing nor am I trying to turn this into something it's not. Until the Iraqi government stands alone politically, the war is not over. Our troops being there will never ensure that the Iraqi politicians take responsibility for their country. They merely ensure that we continue to prop up an ineffective government.

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