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Old 07-28-2008, 03:35 AM
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BAGHDAD (AP) — The United States is now winning the war that two years ago seemed lost.

Limited, sometimes sharp fighting and periodic terrorist bombings in Iraq are likely to continue, possibly for years. But the Iraqi government and the U.S. now are able to shift focus from mainly combat to mainly building the fragile beginnings of peace — a transition that many found almost unthinkable as recently as one year ago.

Despite the occasional bursts of violence, Iraq has reached the point where the insurgents, who once controlled whole cities, no longer have the clout to threaten the viability of the central government.

That does not mean the war has ended or that U.S. troops have no role in Iraq. It means the combat phase finally is ending, years past the time when President Bush optimistically declared it had. The new phase focuses on training the Iraqi army and police, restraining the flow of illicit weaponry from Iran, supporting closer links between Baghdad and local governments, pushing the integration of former insurgents into legitimate government jobs and assisting in rebuilding the economy.

Scattered battles go on, especially against al-Qaida holdouts north of Baghdad. But organized resistance, with the steady drumbeat of bombings, kidnappings, assassinations and ambushes that once rocked the capital daily, has all but ceased.

This amounts to more than a lull in the violence. It reflects a fundamental shift in the outlook for the Sunni minority, which held power under Saddam Hussein. They launched the insurgency five years ago. They now are either sidelined or have switched sides to cooperate with the Americans in return for money and political support.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told The Associated Press this past week there are early indications that senior leaders of al-Qaida may be considering shifting their main focus from Iraq to the war in Afghanistan.

Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, told the AP on Thursday that the insurgency as a whole has withered to the point where it is no longer a threat to Iraq's future.

"Very clearly, the insurgency is in no position to overthrow the government or, really, even to challenge it," Crocker said. "It's actually almost in no position to try to confront it. By and large, what's left of the insurgency is just trying to hang on."

Shiite militias, notably the Mahdi Army of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, have lost their power bases in Baghdad, Basra and other major cities. An important step was the routing of Shiite extremists in the Sadr City slums of eastern Baghdad this spring — now a quiet though not fully secure district.
Besides the fact that this is a story that the New York Times refused to run from the AP, even the fact that AP recognizes this truth (the one where Obama wouldn't have done it anyway...causing an American loss) speaks volumes...
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I thought you knew that we already won the war in Iraq. Remember "Mission Accomplished"We have been providing security for the Iraqis ever since. Remember we'll stand down when they stand up, Etc. But I suppose you can pick and choose when we win or lose.
I know I'm real happy that we lost almost 4500 hundred lives, crippled thousands of Americans and lost billions of dollars from our own struggling economy. In an effort that at the end of the day took down one guy who was not much of a threat to us. While apparently destroying the infrastructure of their entire nation that somehow we had to rebuild. Yeah great idea.

I wonder how many more wars we can afford to "WIN"
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And then the minute this report came out, the insurgents decided to prove a point...

Female suicide bombers target pilgrims, rally - CNN.com

It's quite obvious that our work is all but done there,
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Hey McCain flaunted it and they didn't like that. So maybe with his Military experience, 33 years ago and his age it isn't enough to be the Boss.
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And then the minute this report came out, the insurgents decided to prove a point...

Female suicide bombers target pilgrims, rally - CNN.com

It's quite obvious that our work is all but done there,
You're going to make me do it again, aren't you??? Here it comes - the big dump of ALL the news coming out of Iraq, not just the cherry-picked one bad new story out of dozens of good news stories.

Monday, 28 July 2008 Coalition forces detain 30 suspected AQI terrorists, remove AQI hideout (Baghdad)
Monday, 28 July 2008 ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize multiple caches in Baghdad
Sunday, 27 July 2008 More than 50 suspected AQI detained, 4 AQI killed during search operation in Ninewah
Sunday, 27 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain known criminal, find weapons cache (Baghdad)
Sunday, 27 July 2008 ISF detain suspected AQI terrorist, discover weapons cache in separate operations
Sunday, 27 July 2008 Escalation of Force Investigation Complete
Sunday, 27 July 2008 Al-Qaeda faces continued pressure in Iraq
Sunday, 27 July 2008 Market Street reopens in Siniyah
Sunday, 27 July 2008 More than 500 reconcile in Tikrit, ad Dwar
Sunday, 27 July 2008 Coalition forces capture suspected Special Groups leaders in Baghdad
Sunday, 27 July 2008 Ameriya Technical High School will offer opportunities for a new generation (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 INPs, MND-B Soldiers seize massive cache in Baghdad
Saturday, 26 July 2008 IA, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons in Baghdad (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers search for IRAM facilities, materials (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 Citizen tip leads NPs, MND-B Soldiers to cache (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 ISF assist MND-B Soldiers with finding IEDs (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 Citizen finds IED, reports to IP in Karadah (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 Building Hope for Iraqi Children (Basrah)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 Building Hope for Iraqi Children (Basrah)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 Coalition continues to disrupt al-Qaeda operations (Baghdad)
Saturday, 26 July 2008 ISOF detain two suspected Special Groups criminals in separate Baghdad operations
Saturday, 26 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain key suspected criminal in New Baghdad
Friday, 25 July 2008 ISF seize bomb-making materials, detain suspects near Balad
Friday, 25 July 2008 ISF detain two suspected terrorists in separate operations in Mosul
Friday, 25 July 2008 Suspected terrorist killed during Ramadi area operation
Friday, 25 July 2008 Civilian killed during attack on MND-N Soldiers (Kirkuk)
Friday, 25 July 2008 Rusafa leaders give power to residents (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers find IED, detain suspect (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 ISF, MND-B Soldiers uncover multiple caches in Baghdad area (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 Iraqis bridge gap between ruin, renewal (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 MNC-I promotes deputy commanding general (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 MNC-I promotes deputy commanding general (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 ISF detain suspects, seize weapons cache in central Iraq
Friday, 25 July 2008 ISF detain suspected terrorist, eight others in separate operations (Baghdad)
Friday, 25 July 2008 Female suicide bomber attack kills eight, wounds 15 (Diyala)
Thursday, 24 July 2008 ISF detain suspects, seize weapons cache in central Iraq
Thursday, 24 July 2008 ISF detain suspected terrorist, eight others in separate operations
Thursday, 24 July 2008 ISOF detain eight suspected terrorists, two others in Mosul
Thursday, 24 July 2008 Female suicide bomber attack kills eight, wounds 15 (Diyala Province)
Thursday, 24 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers confirm rocket site, detain known terrorist, 4 suspects
Thursday, 24 July 2008 SoI, Iraqi citizens, MND-B Soldiers take weapons off streets of Rashid
Thursday, 24 July 2008 Al-Qaeda bombing, kidnapping cells degraded
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Key suspected terrorists surrender
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Ghost Rider Company finds cache in cemetery (Al Ujami)
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Salah ad Din province sees more than 1,100 reconcile
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain key suspect in Karadah (Baghdad)
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain two suspects, discover munitions
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Private trucking companies improve Iraqi economy
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Iraqi Army confiscates two tons of HME (Karbala)
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Airmen teach IA vital infrastructure restoration skills (Baghdad)
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 Al-Qaeda financial infrastructure pressured (Baghdad)
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 New elementary school opens in eastern Baghdad
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 INPs, MND-B Soldiers seize weapons caches in Baghdad
Wednesday, 23 July 2008 MNC-I Soldiers discover IEDs (Mosul)
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 IED attack wounds 11 in Mosul
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain known Special Groups criminal in Abu T’shir
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Iraqi soldiers detain 3 suspected criminals in Haideriya
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 5 local citizens killed in Diyala blast
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Iraqi Police find surveillance camera under bridge (Baghdad)
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Reconciliation efforts taking shape in Ninewa province
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Raiders detain criminal, remove IED in Rashid (Baghdad)
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Huge weapons cache destroyed near Samarra
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Iraqi and Coalition forces capture alleged kidnapping cell leader (Diyala and at-Tamim provinces)
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 Hundreds of IDPs return to al Khwalis
Tuesday, 22 July 2008 An Najaf officials welcome new primary healthcare center
Monday, 21 July 2008 Iraqi Security Forces disrupt terrorist activities in northern Iraq
Monday, 21 July 2008 DoD Identifies Marine Casualty (Anbar province)
Monday, 21 July 2008 3 IPs, 6 civilians wounded in VBIED attack in Baghdad
Monday, 21 July 2008 INPs graduate MND-B route clearance course
Monday, 21 July 2008 Congressional delegation visits MND-SE (Basra)
Monday, 21 July 2008 USACE and Project HOPE officials visit Basra Children’s Hospital site
Monday, 21 July 2008 ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions, caches across Baghdad area
Monday, 21 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal in New Baghdad
Monday, 21 July 2008 INPs, MND-B Soldiers confiscate weapons cache in Baghdad
Monday, 21 July 2008 2 contractors killed, 8 local nationals injured in Mosul VBIED attack
Monday, 21 July 2008 Baghdad residents and businesses receive quality water
Monday, 21 July 2008 ISF, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions, caches across Baghdad area
Monday, 21 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain suspected criminal in New Baghdad
Monday, 21 July 2008 Coalition forces target Al-Qaeda and affiliated extremists (Baghdad, Mosul)
Monday, 21 July 2008 Baghdad Police College graduates largest ever class of 1,698 new police officers (Baghdad)
Monday, 21 July 2008 Coalition forces capture suspected Hezbolla Brigades propaganda expert (New Baghdad)
Sunday, 20 July 2008 INPs, MND-B Soldiers confiscate weapons cache in Baghdad
Sunday, 20 July 2008 IA soldiers seize weapons cache in Sadr City
Sunday, 20 July 2008 Baghdad National ERB detains two suspected Special Groups criminals, kills six
Sunday, 20 July 2008 ISOF kill two suspected terrorists in Diyala Province
Sunday, 20 July 2008 Coalition forces target al-Qaeda in Iraq (Baghdad)
Sunday, 20 July 2008 Iraqi Police, MND-B Soldiers seize caches in Baghdad
Sunday, 20 July 2008 Citizen tip leads ISF to IED in New Baghdad
Sunday, 20 July 2008 Two civilians, two NPs wounded in Rusafa IED attack
Sunday, 20 July 2008 ISF, CF thwart terrorist activities, uncover weapons caches (Balad)
Sunday, 20 July 2008 ISOF disrupts criminal activities in central Iraq (Balad)
Sunday, 20 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain known terrorist, two suspected criminals (Baghdad)
Saturday, 19 July 2008 INPs, IA, MND-B Soldiers seize munitions in Baghdad
Saturday, 19 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain five suspected criminals in Rashid
Saturday, 19 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers, agricultural advisors monitor progress at Abernisha farm
Saturday, 19 July 2008 Karkh policemen share training with fellow IPs
Saturday, 19 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers detain key suspected criminal in Taji
Saturday, 19 July 2008 All-girls high school opens new sports facilities (Baghdad)
Saturday, 19 July 2008 MND-B Soldiers rescue NPs from rooftop of burning building (Baghdad)
Saturday, 19 July 2008 ISF detain two suspected terrorists, three suspected Special Groups criminals in separate operations


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Default Re: Analysis: US now winning Iraq war that seemed lost

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And then the minute this report came out, the insurgents decided to prove a point...

Female suicide bombers target pilgrims, rally - CNN.com

It's quite obvious that our work is all but done there,
Did you skim over the first sentence of the article?...

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Limited, sometimes sharp fighting and periodic terrorist bombings in Iraq are likely to continue, possibly for years.
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Did you skim over the first sentence of the article?...
From your post to God's ears redd, I certainly don't want this war to continue just to be able to say I told you so. In this case, I most certainly hope you are right,
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