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Old 07-01-2008, 05:30 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - No matter who is elected president in November, his foreign policy team will have to deal with one of the most frustrating realities in Iraq: the slow pace with which the government in Baghdad operates.

Iraq's political and military success is considered vital to U.S. interests, whether troops stay or go. And while the Iraqi government has made measurable progress in recent months, the pace at which it's done so has been achingly slow.

The White House sees the progress in a particularly positive light, declaring in a new assessment to Congress that Iraq's efforts on 15 of 18 benchmarks are "satisfactory"—almost twice of what it determined to be the case a year ago. The May 2008 report card, obtained by the Associated Press, determines that only two of the benchmarks—enacting and implementing laws to disarm militias and distribute oil revenues—are unsatisfactory.

In the past 12 months, since the White House released its first formal assessment of Iraq's military and political progress, Baghdad politicians have reached several new agreements seen as critical to easing sectarian tensions.
First, notice how Ap starts great news with a negative...The very same negative that could be said of the current American Congress, but a negative nonetheless...

Second, when improvements are almost TWICE as better in 12 months then they were in the first four years, that tells you the right footing was found and we're on the correct track...

Still waiting for Reid to update his "The war is lost" comments...
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New Iraq report: 15 of 18 benchmarks satisfactory

First, notice how Ap starts great news with a negative...The very same negative that could be said of the current American Congress, but a negative nonetheless...

Second, when improvements are almost TWICE as better in 12 months then they were in the first four years, that tells you the right footing was found and we're on the correct track...

Still waiting for Reid to update his "The war is lost" comments...
Reid was 100% right, the war in Iraq is lost and it was the terrorists who were on the losing side in this battle.
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Reid was 100% right, the war in Iraq is lost and it was the terrorists who were on the losing side in this battle.
I wonder can anyone list anything that the Democrats have done to help us achieve this? Can they list anything indicating the Democrats support for this achievement. Can the demonstrate the Democrats desire and support for our continued success.
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I am amused at how the article is about the IRAQI government progress, yet somebody credits Republicans and ask how Democrats contributed...

I'm curious as to what MEASURABLE means of ACTUAL contribution we can give Republicans credit but exclude Democrats...

Regardless, the article also included these comments:
Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., who requested the administration's updated assessment, scoffed at the May report, which he says uses the false standard of determining whether progress on a goal is "satisfactory" versus whether the benchmark has been met. He estimates that only a few of the 18 benchmarks have been fully achieved.
Interesting how the conclusion is just based on whether PROGRESS is determined to be "satisfactory", rather than actual accomplishment...
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I'm curious as to what MEASURABLE means of ACTUAL contribution we can give Republicans credit but exclude Democrats...
That one's simple...too simple...

The Democratic leadership has tried (and failed) to install timetables and drawdowns into federal laws...

Every one failed...

And that's been due to Republicans voting against those measures...

And that's not even getting out the morale issue...I would THINK that the military feels more proud and motivated when they hear Republicans publicly say their mission can be accomplished than when they hear Kerry call them uneducated, Durbin equates them to Pol Pot and the Nazis, and Murtha calls 8 soldiers "cold blooded killers" only to have 7 of them 100% acquitted with 1 still in trial...
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New Iraq report: 15 of 18 benchmarks satisfactory

First, notice how Ap starts great news with a negative...The very same negative that could be said of the current American Congress, but a negative nonetheless...

Second, when improvements are almost TWICE as better in 12 months then they were in the first four years, that tells you the right footing was found and we're on the correct track...

Still waiting for Reid to update his "The war is lost" comments...
Yep. Your assessment of the article is right on, cnredd!

I so wish we had the ability to have user interface with our live television programming!
When the reporters started their Monday morning Quarterback "analysis", I could say "Gong! Just give us the facts, Ma'am!"
(and to further this fantasy, it would really be cute if the first offender was a male reporter. )
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I am amused at how the article is about the IRAQI government progress, yet somebody credits Republicans and ask how Democrats contributed...

So what have the Democrats done to support our efforts there and to ensure success?

Address the issue.
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So what have the Democrats done to support our efforts there and to ensure success?

Address the issue.
Bankrupted our nation and mortgaged our children's future by funding it.
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That one's simple...too simple...
The Democratic leadership has tried (and failed) to install timetables and drawdowns into federal laws...
Every one failed...
And instead, Iraq sucks at the America teat to the tune of $1-2 trillion dollars.

You assume that the Iraqis cannot stand for themselves, and over and over again we see a complete urgency for Republicans to make them do so.
And that has lead us to a situation where they WANT us out, and they insist that they owe us nothing.

The Republican fear of "timetables" is inconsequential. Smoke and mirrors.
If it served a Republican political advantage, or if Democrats had urged that one NOT be created, the Republicans would have "leaked" one.


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And that's not even getting out the morale issue...I would THINK that the military feels more proud and motivated when they hear Republicans publicly say their mission can be accomplished than when they hear Kerry call them uneducated, Durbin equates them to Pol Pot and the Nazis, and Murtha calls 8 soldiers "cold blooded killers" only to have 7 of them 100% acquitted with 1 still in trial...
And yet, as the polls I previously put forward, military families PREFER DEMOCRATS.
No. I think you clearly lose on that one.
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Bankrupted our nation and mortgaged our children's future by funding it.

Compared to WW2....................specious argument.
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