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The War on Terror Discuss New Iraq report: 15 of 18 benchmarks satisfactory at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by Stinger And you should have, your polls were not current and you knew it. An inconsequential whine. ...

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And you should have, your polls were not current and you knew it.
An inconsequential whine.
You cannot attack the poll's veracity, so instead you just pretend that things have magically changed.
They haven't.

I wish somebody would start repeating those questions for our military troops and families. If not just to shut you up in your ridiculous complaint.


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And you are totally ignorant of the matter if you think otherwise.
So you're telling me that the reason that the military families had a poor opinion of Bush / Republicans was simply because they thought they were losing the war???
OMG. Do you realize how shallow and retarded that sounds?


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The links to alQaeda and other terrorist groups is without debate as has already been proven to you.
Didn't you run away from that debate when we had it?
All you could do was keep regurgitating the same quotes, while I was looking at the WHOLE PICTURE to show that Saddam WAS NOT collaborating with al Qaeda.

The only "link" was proven to be the fact that al Qaeda members were PRESENT in Iraq, and Saddam "must have known" ( ) so it was presumed that he allowed it.


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Now tell me what happened to the WMD that UNSCOM said he had, had confirmed he had, but were never found? And be specific, what did Saddam do with them and when did we know it?
Irrelevant.
HE DID NOT HAVE THEM.

Are you telling me that you think an INVASION and OVERTHROW worth $1-2 trillion is justified just because America does not know what happened to his weaponry???
Pathetic!


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To the world and the US just as claim in the 1998 ILA resolution. That had not changed in 2001.
1) We never invaded Iraq in 1998.
2) "2001"?

Are you going to try to link Saddam to 9/11 now????
When will this lunacy ever end???


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Nope, he remain a threat just as the Clinton administration had claimed.

Are you going to tell me Clinton is a credible source now?
Oh wait. ONLY when he agrees with you, right???


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Since it is not a lie..............it was not the position of the United States that Saddam had an role in 9/11.
1) So you're claiming that Saddam having a role in 9/11 is not a lie?

I REALLY wish some of you could get current with the George Bush score-card.
He has admitted a LOT of that crap as invalid, and yet people like you still keep repeating it.

2) "position of the United States"???
I'm talking about what Bush was SAYING in multiple speeches trying to exhort an invasion of Iraq.
Of course it wasn't the "position of the United States", but Bush kept saying it anyways...


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Well DUH alQaeda decided to fight us there rather than in Afghanistan which was to our favor and we defeated them.

al Qaeda "decided" to GET INTO Iraq cause they suddenly had access with Saddam overthrown.
They had NO REAL FORCE in Iraq BEFORE we invaded.
Saddam HATED religious zealots like al Qaeda.

WE did al Qaeda a favor by getting them the possibility of a REAL presence in Iraq.
It's like you ran in the house cause of imaginary complaints of "flies", you LEFT THE DOOR open allowing the flies to come in, and now you want to pretend that the flies "decided" to fight you in the house...



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Then why did UNSCOM say there were? How did he manage to use them if he never had any?
Don't confuse the issue of TIME on this.
Quote me WHEN UNSCOM made that claim...


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No we did not. Saddam had kicked us and the UN and the inspectors out of the country.
Actually, BEFORE the war the UN inspectors were getting access all over the place.
And they were THEN claiming our "intelligence" was garbage, but Bush and crew weren't listening...

Inspectors Call U.S. Tips 'Garbage', U.N. Sources Complain About Quality Of U.S. Intelligence On Iraq - CBS News
In fact, the U.S. claim that Iraq is developing missiles that could hit its neighbors – or U.S. troops in the region, or even Israel – is just one of the claims coming from Washington that inspectors here are finding increasingly unbelievable. The inspectors have become so frustrated trying to chase down unspecific or ambiguous U.S. leads that they've begun to express that anger privately in no uncertain terms.

U.N. sources have told CBS News that American tips have lead to one dead end after another.

# Example: satellite photographs purporting to show new research buildings at Iraqi nuclear sites. When the U.N. went into the new buildings they found "nothing."

# Example: Saddam's presidential palaces, where the inspectors went with specific coordinates supplied by the U.S. on where to look for incriminating evidence. Again, they found "nothing."

# Example: Interviews with scientists about the aluminum tubes the U.S. says Iraq has imported for enriching uranium, but which the Iraqis say are for making rockets. Given the size and specification of the tubes, the U.N. calls the "Iraqi alibi air tight."
UN inspectors WERE in Iraq, getting REAL capability to investigate.
They told us BEFORE the war that there was NOTHING.


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No it's like giving a kid 4 years to hid a toybox somewhere in the state of California and then giving you 3 months to find it.
You're seriously going to equate the actual PRESENCE of FEASIBLE WMDs with a "toy box"???
You STILL believe they are in there???

At least George Bush is willing to admit the truth, even if his followers aren't...


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You're wrong because it was not their position.
How many times are you going to keep pulling this refusal to admit the facts, and then be PROVEN WRONG before you stop?
Seriously!
On more egregious claims like this one, I actually enjoy you repeating the unequivocably false statements cause it just proves you're an absolute nutter.


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Nope you are wrong as it has been proven and documented.
It was as "linked" as the presence of al Qaeda members in the U.S. somehow means they are "linked" to our government.
There was NO COLLABORATION.
Saddam HATED al Qaeda.


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You said it was his mission accomplished, it was not.
Do I need to REQUOTE for you the speech in which Bush claimed "mission accomplished".
And then REQUOTE for you his ADMISSION OF FAULT over it???


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He had not reason to nor requirement to. Why do you insist on belittling the great accomplishment of the sailors and airment who were part of that combat group who were returning with a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
I see both you and faithful_servant are in FULL strawman argument mode.
I don't "belittle" their ACTUAL work.
If that sign had said "Bush walks on water", that wouldn't suddenly mean I was attacking the military cause I point out it's wrong.


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So what? He didn't use it that day. And post the speech your are referring to, a link.
I NEVER CLAIMED he used it that day.
YOU started fixating on "that day".
And I have ALREADY GIVEN you that link.

Do you have some terminal memory disease or something?
Cause you can't remember much of anything that I've already shown you...
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Man stinger still comes here? I thought he left. Oh well "bang" thats for thinking. lol
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