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Old 11-17-2009, 02:47 AM
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You be the judge...

For almost 8 years, current Attorney General Eric Holder worked for the law firm Covington & Burling...

Now he wants terrorists to be tried in a civilian court in NYC instead of military tribunals...

Anyone wanna take a guess at what law firm defends terrorists currently being held at Gitmo?...

From Covington & Burling's own website..

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We represent sixteen men detained at the United States Naval Station at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. Most of the men have been detained for approximately seven years. None have been charged with any crimes, and none have been accorded the protections of the Geneva Convention. In Boumediene v. Bush, 128 S. Ct. 2229 (2008), where we were co-counsel for eleven of the detainees, the Supreme Court held that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus extends to detainees held at Guantánamo Bay. Following that decision, we have been preparing for habeas corpus hearings to be held in federal district court Washington, DC, for eleven of our clients.

The firm has been involved in the Guantánamo related litigation for the last five years. In addition to the on-going habeas corpus proceedings, our efforts have included: bringing cases for review of enemy combatant classification decisions in the D.C. Circuit under the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005; challenging the destruction of CIA torture tapes in federal court; filing amicus briefs and coordinating the amicus effort in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, 548 U.S. 557 (2006); filing amicus briefs in support of Supreme Court review in Moussaoui v. United States, 382 F.3d 483 (4th Cir.), cert denied, 544 U.S. 931 (2005); challenging the government’s practice of redacting information from documents given to security-cleared habeas counsel; and challenging the abusive medical and living conditions that the detainees experience at Guantánamo.
So the attorney general who spent quality career time with a law firm attacking the government's position on Gitmo detainees is now in a position to give this very same law firm a national spotlight in attacking the government...

Anyone think Holder switched 180 degrees and became a defender of America or do you believe that he's now working against America from the inside now that he has the sacred Obama blessing?...

On top of that, does anyone here logically believe that an attorney general should have the authority to let this conflict of interest stand?...

Will Obama supporters ever question why Obama would hire a guy as attorney general whose law firm took the time defending people whose intention was to kill Americans?...
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You be the judge...

For almost 8 years, current Attorney General Eric Holder worked for the law firm Covington & Burling...

Now he wants terrorists to be tried in a civilian court in NYC instead of military tribunals...

Anyone wanna take a guess at what law firm defends terrorists currently being held at Gitmo?...

From Covington & Burling's own website..

So the attorney general who spent quality career time with a law firm attacking the government's position on Gitmo detainees is now in a position to give this very same law firm a national spotlight in attacking the government...

Anyone think Holder switched 180 degrees and became a defender of America or do you believe that he's now working against America from the inside now that he has the sacred Obama blessing?...

On top of that, does anyone here logically believe that an attorney general should have the authority to let this conflict of interest stand?...

Will Obama supporters ever question why Obama would hire a guy as attorney general whose law firm took the time defending people whose intention was to kill Americans?...
Doing things through the legal system is the American way. I know its a shock but its true.
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Doing things through the legal system is the American way. I know its a shock but its true.
Doing things while your legal opponent is the same company you worked for is a cause for recuse...

Funny...

You rip Halliburton while Cheney used to work for them as a reason for your hatred, but Holder does the same thing in a court of law (a much more gregarious position...AND taking opposite platforms unlike Cheney) and you get whiplash changing course...

Your answer tells us more about you than Holder...
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Doing things while your legal opponent is the same company you worked for is a cause for recuse...

Funny...

You rip Halliburton while Cheney used to work for them as a reason for your hatred, but Holder does the same thing in a court of law (a much more gregarious position...AND taking opposite platforms unlike Cheney) and you get whiplash changing course...

Your answer tells us more about you than Holder...
I didn't mention Cheney or Halliburton did I? And they hardly are the same thing. And BTW whats the difference? Are these guys guilty? If so they will be found guilty. Isn't that good?

How much does Halliburton get from the feds and how much goes to the law firm. And what happened to that 9 billion nobody wants to look for?
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I heard about this about a week ago, clearly this is a conflict of interest, though I don't think it matters. The left can do these things without impunity because A. they don't what we think, and B. I don't think anybody on the right has the nuts to truely make the effort to stop this.

I believe this will end badly for the US. There are so many things wrong with this case for it to be held in a US court of law. Evidence, prisioner treatment, security, and intel discloser are the first few I can think of. I also believe this will become an effort to open the prosecution of the CIA and the Bush admin. While this might seem likea good idea to the left, let me assure you that what goes around, comes around. I remember the weeping and nashing of teeth when Clinton was getting his anal exam and how it was retaliation for the Iran/Contra procedings.
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I heard about this about a week ago, clearly this is a conflict of interest, though I don't think it matters. The left can do these things without impunity because A. they don't what we think, and B. I don't think anybody on the right has the nuts to truely make the effort to stop this.

I believe this will end badly for the US. There are so many things wrong with this case for it to be held in a US court of law. Evidence, prisioner treatment, security, and intel discloser are the first few I can think of. I also believe this will become an effort to open the prosecution of the CIA and the Bush admin. While this might seem likea good idea to the left, let me assure you that what goes around, comes around. I remember the weeping and nashing of teeth when Clinton was getting his anal exam and how it was retaliation for the Iran/Contra procedings.
If there were crimes they will be prosicuted. THAT IS AMERICAN JUSTICE. What is it with the right that makes them always want to ignore crimes as long as it waqs for a good cause? They fear that their alleged mistreatment of prisoners could backfire. Well no crap! What thge hell do you think we were saying. If you do things the right way you will get the right result. If you bend or break the rules it comes back to haunt you. Geeez how hard is that to get? Its why so many of us were saying to do things in the light of day legally. But the last administration screwed that up to and now you worry it could mess things up. Welcome to reality.
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If there were crimes they will be prosicuted. THAT IS AMERICAN JUSTICE.
If they were crimes made in an ACT OF WAR, then they should be tried in a MILITARY TRIBUNAL...not a CIVILIAN COURT!!!!

You want a guy who...never living on US soil...never paid taxes that paid for our judicial system...never had to live under a US Constitution...be afforded the SAME RIGHTS as you and me...

...and it will all be done with lawyers that you and I couldn't come close to affording...

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If they were crimes made in an ACT OF WAR, then they should be tried in a MILITARY TRIBUNAL...not a CIVILIAN COURT!!!!

You want a guy who...never living on US soil...never paid taxes that paid for our judicial system...never had to live under a US Constitution...be afforded the SAME RIGHTS as you and me...

...and it will all be done with lawyers that you and I couldn't come close to affording...

It wasn't an act of war because we were not at war at the time. It was a crime.
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It wasn't an act of war because we were not at war at the time. It was a crime.
We weren't at war with Japan when they attacked Pearl Harbor either...

But I guess that was a military installation, right...Not like...oh...the Pentagon...
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We weren't at war with Japan when they attacked Pearl Harbor either...

But I guess that was a military installation, right...Not like...oh...the Pentagon...
Where was Terry Nichols and McViegh prosicuted. And didn't they destroy a federal building?
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