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Sen. Bernie Sanders (basically, the socialist voice of Vermont) recently intoned the following:

"My criticism of senators Manchin and Sinema is not their views. ...My strong criticism is, it is wrong when the American people, when the President of the United States, when 96 percent of your colleagues want to move forward, it is wrong to obstruct."

Say what?

Do the 50 Republican senators not count as "colleagues" of senators Manchin and Sinema?

Equally ridiculous is the argument that two senators ought not be able to overrule 48 senators.

Of course not.

But 52 should be able to overrule 48.

Or, once again: Are we supposed to simply ignore the wishes of Republican senators?
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Are we supposed to simply ignore the wishes of Republican senators?
In LeftyLand?...Of course!...

Bernie Sanders Thinks 48 Senators Make a Majority

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There are 100 members of the United States Senate.

Unlike in the House, where a simple majority rules everything, the math can get a little complicated in the Senate. There's that pesky cloture rule that effectively means you need 60 votes to avoid a filibuster for a lot of things. Other times, a mere 50–50 tie is good enough—as long as you've got the vice president on your side to cast the tie-breaking vote.

...But the one thing that you can never, ever do is pass legislation with 48 senators in support and 52 votes against. Because, again, there are 100 members of the United States Senate.

These are basic facts with which a longtime member of the country's most prestigious legislative body should be well familiar. So when Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.), a member of the Senate since 2007, suggests that "two people" are somehow preventing 48 others from getting what they want, he's not only demonstrating a lack of basic math skills (which, given Sanders' role as the head of the Budget Committee, might explain a lot about America's fiscal situation).

He's also saying that he doesn't quite understand how this whole democracy thing works. And even that wouldn't be so bad if Sanders were a college professor or a plumber, but it is at least a little bit unsettling because Sanders happens to be one of the people that some Americans have chosen to represent them in a democratic form of government.
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (basically, the socialist voice of Vermont) recently intoned the following:

"My criticism of senators Manchin and Sinema is not their views. ...My strong criticism is, it is wrong when the American people, when the President of the United States, when 96 percent of your colleagues want to move forward, it is wrong to obstruct."

Say what?

Do the 50 Republican senators not count as "colleagues" of senators Manchin and Sinema?

Equally ridiculous is the argument that two senators ought not be able to overrule 48 senators.

Of course not.

But 52 should be able to overrule 48.

Or, once again: Are we supposed to simply ignore the wishes of Republican senators?
Senema is afraid of her seat and Manchin is afraid of his corporate masssas. Simple as that.
They do not disagree with the 48. In fact senema ran on some of the bill's features That's what's so evil about them. They seem to be selling their souls.
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Senema is afraid of her seat and Manchin is afraid of his corporate masssas. Simple as that.
They do not disagree with the 48. In fact senema ran on some of the bill's features That's what's so evil about them. They seem to be selling their souls.
Sinema ran on being a moderate problem solver unafraid to buck the party bosses. While she voted to impeach President Trump in the Democrats sham proceedings she is holding strong in defiance of the Marxist Democrats green new deal spending orgy. Her principle objection is that we can't afford to take on the massive increase in debt radical Leftist Democrats demand. Don't bother repeating the idiotic Biden claim it's paid for.
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Senema is afraid of her seat and Manchin is afraid of his corporate masssas. Simple as that.
They do not disagree with the 48. In fact senema ran on some of the bill's features That's what's so evil about them. They seem to be selling their souls.
Deflection.

Mere deflection.

Sen. Sanders claimed that his "criticism of senators Manchin and Sinema is not their views." Rather, it is merely that it is "wrong when the American people, when the President of the United States, when 96 percent of your colleagues want to move forward, it is wrong to obstruct."

I still cannot wrap my head around the math that claims that 48 out of 100 equals 96 percent...
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Deflection.

Mere deflection.

Sen. Sanders claimed that his "criticism of senators Manchin and Sinema is not their views." Rather, it is merely that it is "wrong when the American people, when the President of the United States, when 96 percent of your colleagues want to move forward, it is wrong to obstruct."

I still cannot wrap my head around the math that claims that 48 out of 100 equals 96 percent...
You are forgetting that math is racist because it requires only one right answer. It took numerous electric shocks for Winston Smith to grasp that the number of fingers held up is determined by the State, claiming 4 or 5 based on math is reactionary. Don't you make the same mistake.
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Deflection.

Mere deflection.

Sen. Sanders claimed that his "criticism of senators Manchin and Sinema is not their views." Rather, it is merely that it is "wrong when the American people, when the President of the United States, when 96 percent of your colleagues want to move forward, it is wrong to obstruct."

I still cannot wrap my head around the math that claims that 48 out of 100 equals 96 percent...
Of course you can't wrap your head around it, you're not a brain dead socialist. These people (Sanders and the Left in general) lie to our faces so often that it comes at a shock when they actually say something truthful. The sad part is that there are a good number of people in this country so poorly educated on our system of government, that they actually believe what these lying sacks of garbage are saying.
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Senema is afraid of her seat and Manchin is afraid of his corporate masssas. Simple as that.
They do not disagree with the 48. In fact senema ran on some of the bill's features That's what's so evil about them. They seem to be selling their souls.
Could be that Manchin and Senema are simply representing the views of the people that elected them and those that helped them get elected.
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