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AOC says something stupid? I'm shocked. That women is one of the biggest dolt's ever elected to Congress. The real crime will be if she is reelected given her propensity for displaying her incredible lack of intelligence.
Incredible lack of intelligence is not a disqualifier for office among Democrats.


This double degreed former bartender will get reelected.
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AOC says something stupid? I'm shocked. That women is one of the biggest dolt's ever elected to Congress. The real crime will be if she is reelected given her propensity for displaying her incredible lack of intelligence.
I’m curious, but was it “stupid” and a display of an “incredible lack of intelligence” when the author of a book on concentration camps (that Smithsonian Magazine cited as one of the best history books of the year in 2017) said almost exactly the same thing?

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Surely, the United States of America could not operate concentration camps. In the American consciousness, the term is synonymous with the Nazi death machines across the European continent that the Allies began the process of dismantling 75 years ago this month. But while the world-historical horrors of the Holocaust are unmatched, they are only the most extreme and inhuman manifestation of a concentration-camp system—which, according to Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition. There have been concentration camps in France, South Africa, Cuba, the Soviet Union, and—with Japanese internment—the United States. In fact, she contends we are operating such a system right now in response to a very real spike in arrivals at our southern border.

“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
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Concentration camps have been used throughout history and the Jews are not the only people to suffer from being sent to concentration camps. Japanese were sent to concentration camps in the United States during WW II (that was only declared unconstitutional last year in the Hawaii v Trump decision by the Supreme Court).

Today tens of thousands Hispanics are being held in detention centers without cause and those detention centers certainly meet the criteria of concentration camps. These are Hispanics that have applied for asylum, that grants them the right to be in the United States, don't represent a threat to society and they don't represent a threat of flight to avoid prosecution.

They're being imprisoned because of their ethnic background and not because there's a legal foundation for detaining them to protect society or to prevent them from avoiding legal proceedings in the future where they would attempt to flee from the country.

Release these Hispanic people instead of locking them up without any justifiable reason.
No, Shiva, they're not being detained because of their ethnicity. We are not sneaking into Mexico and dragging ethnics over to detain. They're being detained because they violated our laws. Violating our laws is justification for locking them up.

There is a legal justification, and I believe you know that.
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Applying for asylum is not a crime.
I think the little ass holes who have entered the United States, and have been given a hearing date, and then don't show up for their hearing, have a lot to do with the way the interlopers are handled.

I have an idea. Stay in your country, and fight to overthrow the dictator who has taken over.
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I’m curious, but was it “stupid” and a display of an “incredible lack of intelligence” when the author of a book on concentration camps (that Smithsonian Magazine cited as one of the best history books of the year in 2017) said almost exactly the same thing?



https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ilities-trump/
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Why should only a couple of Dems be anti-Semitic and insult the memory of millions of dead Jews and their families? AOC adds to the dogpile...

Ocasio-Cortez under fire for concentration camp remarks

I'm 99% sure no one will ask Chuck Schumer his thoughts on the matter, but if someone ever did, I'm guessing his response would be "How 'bout those Red Sox?!?!?!"...
how about internment camps? or are you now gonna claim that's anti-Asian?
border patrol was not equipped or trained to do this
instead of spending billions on repairing 2 miles of fence we shud have been preparing for the humanity tasks
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I’m curious, but was it “stupid” and a display of an “incredible lack of intelligence” when the author of a book on concentration camps (that Smithsonian Magazine cited as one of the best history books of the year in 2017) said almost exactly the same thing?



https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ilities-trump/
I don't know who Pitzer is. Never heard of him. But he's 2 year old news, and not a public official.

Do you suppose AOC might have plagerized her comments?
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I don't know who Pitzer is. Never heard of him. But he's 2 year old news, and not a public official.

Do you suppose AOC might have plagerized her comments?
“Her,” not “him.” And I find it odd that the critique would shift from what she said is stupid to maybe what she said was copied from an award-winning authority on the subject.

If you want to read more from Pitzer, see here:

How the Trump Administration's Border Camps Fit into the History of Concentration Camps
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A looooong time ago, I used an analogy describing Socialism as pertaining to the real world and not simply a definition from a dictionary...

It goes a little like this...

A guy hits 47 home runs this year...

Another guy hits 3 home runs this year...

Now from a bullsh*t STRICT interpretation of the term "home run hitter", both qualify because they both have hit home runs...

But in the REAL WORLD, any person with an IQ above their hat size knows damn well that the first guy is definitely a "home run hitter", and the second guy is FAR from being a "home run hitter"...

If this guy goes viral, you can imagine the personal attacks the Left will throw at him...

That's what the Left is trying to do here...They don't WANT anyone to use the REAL WORLD application of the term "concentration camp"...

They want you to use a bullsh*t STRICT interpretation of it to demonize America...
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This is from a year ago, but if this guy ever goes viral, the attacks from the Left will be the second worse thing that's ever happened to him...

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