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I'll assume the first sentence was laced with a touch of sarcasm. In case it wasn't, I am more than willing to discuss many thoughts and angles.

The part I bolded, is a known problem, and why anything presented close to it will utterly fail. I've become rather disgusted in general with both sides of the fence, government-wise.

I say toss the wankers (gads, I love that phrase! ) next election and bring in all fresh blood.
I forgot the sarcasm flag, my bad.

For the last 20 years neither party has properly addressed the problem if ILLEGAL immigration. ether they didn't have consensus of Congress, or Congress and the Executive or they just didn't have the balls to do it when they did. The last opportunity with a yes man Congress and a promise to the people to actually do something was in Obama's first two years. Like so many opportunities to do the right thing, he passed in favor of creating angst and stirring identity politics.

Given the current anti Trump attitude of both the GOP ad the Democrats, I'm not sure what Trump will be able to accomplish. But I dare say he will at least try to keep his promise. If Immigration reform cannot be done, because HE promised it, that lays on the Congress who apparently did not understand the will of the People when Trump , along with a good many Republicans, was elected.

The DACA Directive of President Obama has terminated without legislation to back it up. That's on Obama and the Congress. Not Trump. He has extended it so they have time to get it done. In reality doing those 800,000 or so Dreamers, a favor.

Their predictament belongs to Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama. Not THE Donald. Try telling that to a Democrat. Or a Republican. "We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions.” Hillary Clinton. Apparently not if you are an elected politician.
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I really don't know the answer to this question, so this is your big chance. How many times a day do we need to milk our cow?
I'm starting to believe you are related to my brother.

I'd recommend twice a day, but if yer needing a squirt for yer coffee, and you can catch the cow, have at it!
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Wow, now Kirk is all for letting illegal aliens stay in the country. Hope Trump don't come out endorsing gays. Kirk might turn on us.
NO I want a deal made. Dreamers can stay if....

You build one big fuqing wall with guard towers and machine gun emplacements imbedded in it.... Shoot to kill if anyone tries to cross.

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The Trumpsters have been duped. But they will remain faithful.
You might be right but I think it is because Trump wants to get something done before this year is out.

What surprised me was it won't cover his precious boarder wall.. Which shows I might be right.
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NO I want a deal made. Dreamers can stay if....

You build one big fuqing wall with guard towers and machine gun emplacements imbedded in it.... Shoot to kill if anyone tries to cross.

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Again you haven't read what was provided. There is deal with Trumps wish, a new wall on our southern boarder.

And if there were it wouldn't have machine guns to kill..
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Again you haven't read what was provided. There is deal with Trumps wish, a new wall on our southern boarder.
Then we kick the dreamers out of our country.

Go smoke some more of your sh1t. Your obviously high....

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His might create problems.. Other states might do the same... A totally costly affair..


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Undocumented Immigrants In Calif. Will Benefit From New Laws

October 7, 20135:55 PM ET


The "Trust Act" Vs. "Secure Communities"

One of the most important components of the multibill package forbids local law enforcement personnel to detain for deportation immigrants who are here illegally if the crimes for which they have been apprehended are minor and nonviolent. (Violent crimes such as child molestation and felonies are exceptions.)

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Undocumented Immigrants In Calif. Will Benefit From New Laws : Code Switch : NPR


Just why does the Liberal DNC think it can defy federal laws? Oh yes since it controls the America's education system, many local, state and federal courts, why not play t's game.
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The Trumpsters have been duped.
I know I'm late to this party, but the "Trumpsters" were not duped at all. One of the reasons Trump was elected was that he's NOT really very Republican. He's an independent that RAN as a Republican. We expect him to do deals with the other side. Gridlock is part of what we want changed in Washington. And, he's doing it.
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Then we kick the dreamers out of our country.

Go smoke some more of your sh1t. Your obviously high....

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