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TRUMP: And you know, what people don't realize -- what people don't realize, we have very, very strong laws.

HANNITY: Yes, but Obama doesn't follow them.

TRUMP: Nobody understands that. No, they don't follow them.

HANNITY: Yes.

TRUMP: But we're going to follow the laws.

HANNITY: We have 11.3 million illegal immigrants in the country now. Now, you said immediately last night, all criminal aliens out, day one, correct?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

TRUMP: (INAUDIBLE)

Uh, What day is this?
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I would like to think that the Dreamers could be addressed as such:

1. Apply for citizenship within X days, regardless of parental status.
2. Be subject to all laws and requirements of natural born citizens
3. No special education financing other than what is offered to existing citizens.
4. When of legal age, must not be on any assistance or subsidy program
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I would like to think that the Dreamers could be addressed as such:

1. Apply for citizenship within X days, regardless of parental status.
2. Be subject to all laws and requirements of natural born citizens
3. No special education financing other than what is offered to existing citizens.
4. When of legal age, must not be on any assistance or subsidy program


You're suggestions have issues. Whilst they are reasonable, fair, humane, and quite workable, there is no political gain for either party in them
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You're suggestions have issues. Whilst they are reasonable, fair, humane, and quite workable, there is no political gain for either party in them
I'll assume the first sentence was laced with a touch of sarcasm. In case it wasn't, I am more than willing to discuss many thoughts and angles.

The part I bolded, is a known problem, and why anything presented close to it will utterly fail. I've become rather disgusted in general with both sides of the fence, government-wise.

I say toss the wankers (gads, I love that phrase! ) next election and bring in all fresh blood.
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Refresher course:
am·nes·ty.

[ˈamnəstē]
NOUN
1.an official pardon for people who have been convicted of political offenses:

"an amnesty for political prisoners" ·
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synonyms: pardon · pardoning · reprieve · grace · release · discharge
VERB
1.grant an official pardon to:

"the guerrillas would be amnestied and allowed to return to civilian life"


synonyms: pardon · pardoning · reprieve · grace · release · discharge
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Refresher course:
am·nes·ty.

[ˈamnəstē]
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1.an official pardon for people who have been convicted of political offenses:

"an amnesty for political prisoners" ·
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synonyms: pardon · pardoning · reprieve · grace · release · discharge
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1.grant an official pardon to:

"the guerrillas would be amnestied and allowed to return to civilian life"

synonyms: pardon · pardoning · reprieve · grace · release · discharge
As long as this country continues to grant full am·nes·ty to people who enter it illegally, then we might as well remove any immigration laws that are on the books, and they can become full citizens with all it's rights and privileges from the moment they step on our soil.
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As long as this country continues to grant full am·nes·ty to people who enter it illegally, then we might as well remove any immigration laws that are on the books, and they can become full citizens with all it's rights and privileges from the moment they step on our soil.
Exactly who and how many people do we grant full amnesty to?
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Exactly who and how many people do we grant full amnesty to?
Illegal immigrants. Those who legally immigrate, don't need amnesty.
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I really don't know the answer to this question, so this is your big chance. How many times a day do we need to milk our cow?
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