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Old 01-13-2014, 01:36 PM
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Kindly point out the link to the proposal to cut food stamps to pay for restoring veteran's pension COLAs. It doesn't exist. The claim is the typical irrelevant polemic deployed in desperation by Democrats to divert attention from failed policies. Republican surrender monkeys like the ones that groveled in submission before voting to strip these veterans benefits in the name of compromise.

You ought to take note of the Federal government's bold manipulation of veteran's benefits for political ends, it has serious implications for your SS benefits. The false security of a Federal guarantee vanishes with the stroke of a politicians pen.
I didn't say they had proposed it, learn to read. What I stated is based on what the GOP seems to be willing to cut is on the backs of the poor, and seniors over all others including big farms. Just look at the cuts coming to food stamps with more on the way. Funny though while they cut the food stamps from the farm bill they added to the subsidies.
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The cut is to future COLAs for younger military retirees including those with service related disabilities. It is typical Democrat dishonesty to claim there is no cut because next month's check will be unchanged.

Please explain why you'd rather have the Federal government pass out unearned checks to illegal aliens instead of giving a young disabled veteran her COLA.

Ah, this bill was from both sides of the isle that made the cuts so please stop with the democrats. You also seem to forget how the democrats passed a bill to raise the death benefits for those killed in combat over the objections of the GOP in congress. Bush did sign it though.
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no because this is not an either or situation. Those vets need to fight for their rights as the Vietnam vets did. they are getting shafted on many things and if they dont get their heads out of their butts and do a little protesting they will end up with a hand full of what the little boy shot at.
So the veterans should scramble to beg for the pension benefit they were promised while the illegal alien just gets a check for filing a false income tax return. How screwed up is that?
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I didn't say they had proposed it, learn to read. What I stated is based on what the GOP seems to be willing to cut is on the backs of the poor, and seniors over all others including big farms. Just look at the cuts coming to food stamps with more on the way. Funny though while they cut the food stamps from the farm bill they added to the subsidies.
We are discussing veterans pension COLA's. Save the populist food stamp demagoguery for another thread. The fact is only some Republicans tried to amend the budget agreement to restore the benefit promised to veterans.

The GOP seems to be willing to? Pardon me your partisan prejudice is on full display. No evidence they wanted to cut anything besides illegal payments to illegal aliens but your condemnation flows anyway.

I'll ask you the same question as Salty, why do you prefer giving tax dollars to illegal aliens over our retired veterans?
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So the veterans should scramble to beg for the pension benefit they were promised while the illegal alien just gets a check for filing a false income tax return. How screwed up is that?
how screwed up is it that you fall for the either or message your brainwashers send you?
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how screwed up is it that you fall for the either or message your brainwashers send you?
someone sets the parameters of your thinking and you just follow along.
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We are discussing veterans pension COLA's. Save the populist food stamp demagoguery for another thread. The fact is only some Republicans tried to amend the budget agreement to restore the benefit promised to veterans.

The GOP seems to be willing to? Pardon me your partisan prejudice is on full display. No evidence they wanted to cut anything besides illegal payments to illegal aliens but your condemnation flows anyway.

I'll ask you the same question as Salty, why do you prefer giving tax dollars to illegal aliens over our retired veterans?
Man you talk about following the partisan line man you are a living example of it.

It seems you can't understand a thing I have said so I will stop trying with you. I think perhaps you are typical in that you can't see common links or use common sense in these discussions. Oh and for your information they cut 40 billion over 10 years. Here read something other that the usual right wing stuff.
Spending cuts likely deeper in 2014 - Jun. 10, 2013
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how screwed up is it that you fall for the either or message your brainwashers send you?
Kitchen table economics of the family budget tells us we must make choices about our spending. The Federal government is no different. That is not "screwed up" it is reality.

Again, why do you favor handouts to illegal aliens over veterans cost of living pension adjustments?
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Man you talk about following the partisan line man you are a living example of it.

It seems you can't understand a thing I have said so I will stop trying with you. I think perhaps you are typical in that you can't see common links or use common sense in these discussions. Oh and for your information they cut 40 billion over 10 years. Here read something other that the usual right wing stuff.
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Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the budget deal. They were joined by the surrender monkey Republicans, defeating a Republican proposed amendment to restore the veteran's pension COLA's. That is not partisan or lacking in common sense, those are the facts.

Common sense tells us spend now cut later budget deals seldom come to fruition, especially when the Federal government is involved. The ink was barely dry on this one when Obama and the Democrats were insisting on additional spending for unemployment lifestyle subsidies. Naturally the price of Democrat support for paying veterans what they were promised will include additional deficit spending on their chosen vote buying scheme.

No doubt you are aware of Congress having a pay as you go rule which they routinely ignore or circumvent by declaring all spending an emergency measure. It is just common sense to see they intend the same treatment for the budget agreement.
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Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the budget deal. They were joined by the surrender monkey Republicans, defeating a Republican proposed amendment to restore the veteran's pension COLA's. That is not partisan or lacking in common sense, those are the facts.

Common sense tells us spend now cut later budget deals seldom come to fruition, especially when the Federal government is involved. The ink was barely dry on this one when Obama and the Democrats were insisting on additional spending for unemployment lifestyle subsidies. Naturally the price of Democrat support for paying veterans what they were promised will include additional deficit spending on their chosen vote buying scheme.

No doubt you are aware of Congress having a pay as you go rule which they routinely ignore or circumvent by declaring all spending an emergency measure. It is just common sense to see they intend the same treatment for the budget agreement.
Because we needed a budget but we also didn't extend the unemployment in this budget either. This budget was from Murray and Ryan with Ryan getting more than most of what he wanted.
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