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Old 09-23-2013, 08:51 AM
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Arguing federal workers should not get special treatment, Rand Paul says he does not want taxpayers subsidizing the personal health care plans of any federal employee — including Chief Justice John Roberts — anymore.

With some in Congress arguing lawmakers and their staff should not get subsidies to cover their health insurance as President Obama’s health care law goes into effect, the Republican senator from Kentucky told The Daily Caller on Sunday that he’s going to start pushing a constitutional amendment that goes even further.

Paul’s proposal — outlawing any special exemptions for government employees — would mean all federal workers would have to purchase health insurance on the new Obamacare exchanges instead of getting taxpayer-funded subsidies. Some critics say those subsidies amount to special treatment. The Obamacare health insurance exchange opens Oct 1.

“My amendment says basically that everybody including Justice Roberts — who seems to be such a fan of Obamacare — gets it too,” Paul told TheDC by phone on Sunday from Mackinac Island in Michigan, where he won a straw poll of potential Republican candidates for president in 2016.

“See, right now, Justice Roberts is still continuing to have federal employee health insurance subsidized by the taxpayer,” Paul said. “And if he likes Obamacare so much, I’m going to give him an amendment that gives Obamacare to Justice Roberts.”

Roberts famously voted to uphold the constitutionality of Obama’s unpopular health care law when it went before the Supreme Court last year.

Paul’s constitutional amendment says no federal employees should get special exemptions from laws. The senator also plans to push a proposal requiring that Congress and all federal employees rely on Obamacare for their insurance.

His proposal comes after outrage from conservatives about a so-called “exemption” for members of Congress and their staff from Obamacare.

What’s being referred to as the “Obamacare fix” for lawmakers and staff was made because the Affordable Care Act includes an amendment from a Republican senator that changes how the government currently covers most of the cost of health care premiums for members of Congress and their staffers. The new law mandates that members and staff must enter into exchanges or be covered by insurance “created” by law.

But after concerns about the cost of health care going up for congressional employees, the Office of Personnel Management announced in August that it would provide a subsidy of about 75 percent of the cost for the health care of members and staff.

Paul revealed his new amendment push on Sunday after TheDC inquired about a proposal from Louisiana Sen. David Vitter, who has proposed killing those federal Obamacare subsidies for lawmakers and their staff. “I support any effort to make all laws applicable to Congress that we pass,” Paul said.
Paul wants to end health care subsidies for chief justice | The Daily Caller

Congress, the Supreme Court and all federal employees need to start living under the same laws that we peons have to live under. Roberts voted for this abortion so he needs to live with it like the rest of us.

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I don't think Rand Paul thought this one through. The ACA requires that Employers with more than 50 full time Employees to offer insurance to their employees. Considering the Federal Government has way more than 50 Employees, including Congress Critters.... well they'll already be conforming to the LAW.....lol....

Rand is hilarious....
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I don't think Rand Paul thought this one through. The ACA requires that Employers with more than 50 full time Employees to offer insurance to their employees. Considering the Federal Government has way more than 50 Employees, including Congress Critters.... well they'll already be conforming to the LAW.....lol....

Rand is hilarious....
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Paul’s proposal — outlawing any special exemptions for government employeeswould mean all federal workers would have to purchase health insurance on the new Obamacare exchanges instead of getting taxpayer-funded subsidies. Some critics say those subsidies amount to special treatment. The Obamacare health insurance exchange opens Oct 1.

“See, right now, Justice Roberts is still continuing to have federal employee health insurance subsidized by the taxpayer,” Paul said.
CERTAIN government employees get special treatment and don't have to live under the same rules as the rest of us...

...and the Supreme Court is one of those entities...
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I don't think Rand Paul thought this one through. The ACA requires that Employers with more than 50 full time Employees to offer insurance to their employees. Considering the Federal Government has way more than 50 Employees, including Congress Critters.... well they'll already be conforming to the LAW.....lol....

Rand is hilarious....
I don't think XCali thought this one through. Congress exempted themselves from their own laws. Thouands of exemptions, extensions, and alterations have been granted those politically connected. Executive order Congressional bypasses have been granted, a recent one granted thousands of government whiny babies exemptions snd continuations of their beloved taxpayer funded subsidies.
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I don't think XCali thought this one through. Congress exempted themselves from their own laws. Thouands of exemptions, extensions, and alterations have been granted those politically connected. Executive order Congressional bypasses have been granted, a recent one granted thousands of government whiny babies exemptions snd continuations of their beloved taxpayer funded subsidies.
There is no mention of Obama delaying the employer mandate for 1 year by imperial decree.

So besides being completely wrong on the facts, again, the comment deserves serious consideration.
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There is no mention of Obama delaying the employer mandate for 1 year by imperial decree.

So besides being completely wrong on the facts, again, the comment deserves serious consideration.
Not sure I understand the post. Am I wrong on the facts?
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Not sure I understand the post. Am I wrong on the facts?
I think he was referring to xcali's post, which are almost always factually wrong.
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I do believe you all Missed the point entirely.

The ACA requires that Employers that Have more than 50 Employees To supply their employees with Insurance .... With me so far...

The Federal Government Employs what.. Several Hundred Thousand Employees?... including Members of Congress and the Supreme Court?

so under the ACA the Federal Government ( Which Employs all those people ) Is required to Offer Insurance to their Employees....

The Right will whine when Home Depot drops all their part timers off Insurance to Force them onto the Exchanges but then Cheer when one Idiot in Washington suggests dropping Hundreds of thousands of Government Employees off their Insurance to force them onto exchanges....

Got it now... Rand is Ignorant
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I think he was referring to xcali's post, which are almost always factually wrong.
lmao... Funny ...
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I do believe you all Missed the point entirely.

The ACA requires that Employers that Have more than 50 Employees To supply their employees with Insurance .... With me so far...

The Federal Government Employs what.. Several Hundred Thousand Employees?... including Members of Congress and the Supreme Court?

so under the ACA the Federal Government ( Which Employs all those people ) Is required to Offer Insurance to their Employees....
Read...It's only the third damn time it's gonne be posted...

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Paul’s proposal — outlawing any special exemptions for government employees — would mean all federal workers would have to purchase health insurance on the new Obamacare exchanges instead of getting taxpayer-funded subsidies
The Supreme court gets AN EXEMPTION from your oft-repeated-but-not-reality-based comments...

All of your "This is what the law says" DOES NOT APPLY to the Supreme Court...

...and Paul is trying to reverse that...
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