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Old 08-22-2012, 12:57 PM
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He reminds me of a Southern Politician objecting to Abolitionist sentiments circa 1850. Pro-Life is now the majority opinion. It isn't even close any more.
"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%
The problem with this poll has been pointed out before.
Some "pro-life" people are NOT "pro-life" with regards to LEGISLATED policy.
Furthermore, just because a person says they are pro-life doesn't mean that they don't want abortion legal under certain circumstances. That very poll lists 52% wanting abortion legal under certain circumstances, and only 20% want it illegal in all circumstances...
In fact, MORE people thought it should be legal under ANY circumstance (25%) than those that wanted it illegal in all circumstances...

Saying "I am pro-life" is insufficient to assess EXACTLY where one's opinion lies.
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I just grabbed the first poll I could find. I don't know if this polls consistent throughout others.



Most Americans Back Legal Abortion Under Certain Circumstances | Angus Reid Public Opinion
So that says that over 80% think it should be legal on demand.
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I actually like Scott Brown - I've gotten the impression he's more common-sense than ideological, and he doesn't hesitate to buck his party when needed. I think the Republicans are damaging themselves with this platform because they will further alienate those who tend to be fiscal conservatives but not social conservatives.
This election is not about social issues, it's about the economy and little else. Brown took a position that is unpopular with his party but popluar with his constituents and with the current political climate is 100% safe for him to stand on. As long as he maintains a posture of being a fiscal conservative, he can pretty much take whatever social position he wants to. Always look at what will effect a congresscritters chances of re-election when they talk. This one perspective will tell you more about why they are saying what they are saying than anything else.
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I actually like Scott Brown - I've gotten the impression he's more common-sense than ideological, and he doesn't hesitate to buck his party when needed. I think the Republicans are damaging themselves with this platform because they will further alienate those who tend to be fiscal conservatives but not social conservatives.
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If states hadn't been so stupid as to interfere between a doctor and patient in the first place we wouldn't have this mess of abortion "clinics" and talking about termination as a form of birth control.
That's what happens when you try to restrict freedom. It often bites you in the but when the extremists take it in another direction.
And Scott Brown is "pro-choice" because he is in Massachusetts.
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Any reports on the issues Scott Brown does NOT call a "mistake" and agrees with the platform wholeheartedly?...Or is this just a situation when someone agrees with 95% of it, and some need to make sure the 5% gets called out?...

Isn't simply amazing that every time you hear "The Republicans are so in lock-step with each other!!!!", threads like these show up in an attempt to attack all of the OTHER Republicans because someone is NOT in lock-step?...
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Any reports on the issues Scott Brown does NOT call a "mistake" and agrees with the platform wholeheartedly?...Or is this just a situation when someone agrees with 95% of it, and some need to make sure the 5% gets called out?...

Isn't simply amazing that every time you hear "The Republicans are so in lock-step with each other!!!!", threads like these show up in an attempt to attack all of the OTHER Republicans because someone is NOT in lock-step?...
The one true viewpoint I have that is conservative is on abortion. I have said recently since it is a law, women have that right unrestricted. Change the law fine. But this is pure politics to save his azz and all the other decryers azzes that have jumped on whats his name in Mo.
Where were they when all these bills were being considered?
I'll tell ya where. Totin Rush and Beck and the so called Rove tea party's jock straps and opening and closing doors for them, THAT's where.
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I'm glad I don't have to vote in Mass., not that I'd ever live on the east coast. Pro-abortion in any instance other than the mother's health is a deal breaker for me.
Is there another viable candidate for conservatives to vote for? Because Warren is a nightmare option.
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So that says that over 80% think it should be legal on demand.
Where?

Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing. I would consider "legal on demand" to be this one...

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More than a third of Americans (35%) believe abortion should be legal under any circumstances
That's shy of 80% by quite a bit. What am I missing?

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Where?

Perhaps we're not talking about the same thing. I would consider "legal on demand" to be this one...



That's shy of 80% by quite a bit. What am I missing?

Most Americans Back Legal Abortion Under Certain Circumstances | Angus Reid Public Opinion
No, I would consider legal on demand to be 'under any circumstances' and 'under certain circumstances'. So when you add the two together, you get a very large majority.

I'm adamantly pro-choice. But I would answer that question 'legal under certain circumstances'.
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