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Old 08-07-2012, 05:18 PM
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AZ sense you have your own STRONG opinions and belittle my points I see no reason I should continued this so indulge yourself... I am not wasting my time.
It is sad you consider refuting your assertions belittling. If we cannot engage in spirited debate how are we to test our analysis?
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It is sad you consider refuting your assertions belittling. If we cannot engage in spirited debate how are we to test our analysis?
Again very nicely said to continue your side of this debate. And leave my side flat.

So to give you a complete picture...

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..60 House Bills to Name Post Offices, Zero To Fix Mail Service

By Amy Bingham | ABC OTUS News – Wed, Aug 1, 2012.. Posted.

In the 18 months the 112 th Congress has been sworn in, the House has introduced 60 bills to rename post offices. Thirty-eight have passed the House and 26 have become law. During those 18 months, the House has produced 151 laws, 17 percent of which have been to rename post offices, according to Congressional Democrats.

Not a single bill has come to the House floor aimed at reforming a Postal Service, which is bleeding billions of dollars because of Congressional mandates.

Today the United States Postal Service will default on a Congressional mandate to pay $5.5 billion to "prefund" health benefits for future retirees. On Friday, House of Representatives will leave town for a five week summer vacation. There is no plan to take up postal reform before that summer recess.

The Postal Service has attempted to enact an array of cost-cutting measures to pull itself out of a $22.5 billion budget shortfall. Over the past five years USPS has cut more than 110,000 employees. The mail service, which takes no taxpayer money but is regulated by Congress, has announced plans to close or consolidate 230 mail processing centers, cutting 13,000 jobs and saving an estimated $1.2 billion annually.

The service attempted to close 3,700 post offices under a plan announced last year, but after public outcry decided to cut operating hours to between two and six hours per day at 13,000 locations. USPS claims that move will save $500 million per year.

It appears the public has some influence, now why is that? Punching a hole in the e-mail theory!!

One of the largest cost-saving measures would be ending Saturday mail delivery, a move the Postal Service says will save $3.1 billion a year. But USPS can't cut delivery without Congressional approval, and partisan disagreements over whether Congress should take control of USPS's operations until it is solvent again or if it should leave the decision making to the postmaster general have halted any action on Capitol Hill.

It also appears as I have said, Congress is a major problem to any recovery and left DC with this major problem unsolved!

So what do I need to bother to debate, when if one read more and thought less they would see just what the situation really is?


USPS claims that if Congress does not act, the mail service will default not only on the $5.5 billion payment due today, but also on another $5.6 billion payment for future retiree's benefit due September 30.

The Postal Service has pleaded with Congress for years to end the requirement that it pre-fund its retiree's health benefits. But many lawmakers claim that because USPS has such a massive workforce - there are 614,000 Postal Service employees-if it does not pre-fund retirement benefits, it will not be able to pay them in the future.

And as long as these disagreements persist, it looks like naming post offices is the closest Congress will get to passing postal reform.
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So you want to say just what? My suggestion is go play with another.
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Again very nicely said to continue your side of this debate. And leave my side flat.

So to give you a complete picture...


60 House Bills to Name Post Offices, Zero To Fix Mail Service - Yahoo! News

So you want to say just what? My suggestion is go play with another.
Read more, think less isn't a formula for reasoned debate. It reduces us to parroting talking points. Reading more and thinking more is what Conservatives are all about.

The complaint is that mean old Congress insists the PO retirement fund remain solvent. Why shouldn't the PO have to be able to pay for the retirement benefits it promises? If it cannot pay for promised benefits and keep operating then management needs to have an adult conversation with the workers about reducing retirement benefits to a sustainable level. The UAW substantially reduced retirement benefits for new hires despite a massive taxpayer funded bailout, it is not unreasonable to expect the PO to implement retirement solvency reforms since Congress has thoughtfully provided the impetus.
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Read more, think less isn't a formula for reasoned debate. It reduces us to parroting talking points. Reading more and thinking more is what Conservatives are all about.

The complaint is that mean old Congress insists the PO retirement fund remain solvent. Why shouldn't the PO have to be able to pay for the retirement benefits it promises? If it cannot pay for promised benefits and keep operating then management needs to have an adult conversation with the workers about reducing retirement benefits to a sustainable level. The UAW substantially reduced retirement benefits for new hires despite a massive taxpayer funded bailout, it is not unreasonable to expect the PO to implement retirement solvency reforms since Congress has thoughtfully provided the impetus.
Like I need your advise. You haven't debated my last two posts nor do you have any real answers to what I posted again above. See AZ I debate my way not yours.

Like you got the above right. I posted the entire news yet you say not to read it. DIPSTICK is what I say as knowledge comes from more than thinking.

And pest I dump.. Get my point.. Now go paly with others as I am done with any conservative who uses left wing tactics as you do.

Yet that just IMHO. And to me my opinion counts for being true and not playing games every step of the way.
Like changing the topic.
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