I don't speak for any securing power, but I can just about expect that if any idiot disturbs the Second Amendment beyond the sissified infringement so far, he will lose all guarantee that the American citizens, Armed Forces personnel included, will do battle in Congress. And I can comfortably expect that the unnamed potential dictator will not receive the outcome in his favor.

Remember also, in terms of leadership military and civilian: Excrement flows downhill, but fire rises upward. Veterans and the rest, especially those with authority, must remember, at their peril, when the Oath to the Constitution could be misplaced in preservation of a despot.

I hope this helped.

As this discussion is very interesting, I think everyone should have this piece of information.

That's right folks, Iran, the country that supplies terrorists with weapons is going to oversee the conference on the arms treaty. If it wasn't such an insane decision by the UN you would think it was a joke.

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The United Nations con men tease and taunt the idiots of America every minute of their existence, and the American people for the most part still truly believe a pack of circus monkeys in some headquarters are the guaranteeing power to bring about world peace.

It is time to give the charlatans the big American boot up the ass, and tell them all to go to Hell.

MrLiberty as that was my next item after the above kick I used. As I check the Middle East, Asia, Africa and the Western Countries every day.

With Yahoo it is easy. Click on any news story on the front page, then near the top are tabs.
Just run your mouse over the left ones. A drop down comes up and pick a country or region. There is one for each Continent, as one keeps going across the lower top.

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it does clarifies the conversation a bit more,

So then this isn't what your talking about, right?

Then just what would be done IF your gangs of proud gun owners did overtake all the Govt., will/would toss at your armed groups as they got into range. And did beat the odds?

See you never made it clear and I bet readers thought the same thing as I did.

As for Congress well I feel about the same results as I posted above would come from it.
letters, e-mails and calls would come into each reps., yet as I look at the big picture I know nothing would come from it.

See the bigger picture is those who control world wide and helped bring this country into being. The POWER behind all govts.,

Before I give up their name, just look world wide at those with plenty of $ & power, check their finger for the Mason Ring. And if they are Master Masons, well you get the picture I am drawing.

And it isn't a conspiracy theory item. All of the secrete groups have Master masons in them, they are everywhere there is power & money.

And Manitou if time allowed I would be one of them make calls, sending e-mails and trying to get others to do the same. But you have to understand the timing. A very good possibility there would be none or just a few days at best.

And I am not trying to say it is wrong. Show where I have if you think otherwise. I saw something that needed the entire thought to come out. So I threw up some very strong defense and now we got it all out in the open.

Except the timing.

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I understand, mlurp. No, I do not think this is a conspiracy either. Only thing is, "gangs of proud gun owners" mislabels those who will fight for the Constitution. You have placed also those majority ones in the Armed Forces who will have a piss ant's barrage thrown at them by the despotic forces.

Manitou because we are friends I took to this debate with a wide open eye for you to out debate me, yet hoping you might grasps my meanings in the deflections.
Which you did..

I and plenty of others know that Obama as other world leaders doesn't have full control.

Long ago on another political site I started to keep an eye on these secret societies.
I had membership lists/ meeting reports and some other stuff on quite a few.

Which when my XP crashed I could not recover any data, and I took the PC to a computer store just to save these files.

What little that they recovered didn't have one file in it that belong to these secret groups.

So I never tried again to do this type of reseach. And this Vista is still running with all of my data.

But I have noticed of late that several TV major program have been running once each time. My Cable always plays the same shows 3 hours later but not these late evening shows on the Masons.

They come in 2 parts. The first show/tells about their History going back to the Gooses & Drinks in the period of 1717. In London, a gentleman's pub & eatery.

They were free thinkers who risk being found out by either the Church or King.

And they started to grow as speculative not real Masons who worked stone. But rich and savy men.
They grew by hand signs etc. And when the time arrived they went to America or then the colonies.
Of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, 9 were known Masons while near 50 might have been Masons.

They trace their roots back to the Knights Templers, then went as far back as Egypt and the stone masons who built the Temple for King Solomon of the Hebrews.
They were active before the signing and helped push forward at each step the population of the upper colonies.

And the other outrageous things done in their name. Then in part two it is a simple walk through making them out to be saints.

In 1834 Skull and Bone came into being and the skull and bones is consider a sign of the Templers not the old pirates.

So each secret groups that came later were connected to the Masons one way or the other.

I can go on but I think you have a very good idea if you didn't before. Stay safe my friend.

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Please read my last post above. I didn't place a thing. And the post above might clear up things...

And above all I want you to know I still consider you a friend, a very worthy one..

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I got it, mlurp. Thanks. And stay safe also.

Manitou

I try my friend... Yet life has been decent to me if you except I was lost for years
while at many time today I find I am still lost at times.
I guess I am saying when my time comes I well enbarce it, all I want is to say one last prayer.

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"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation... One is by sword... The other is by debt."

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