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You have your head so far up the parties line. Both parties are at fault for our mess be it spending or tax breaks or waste. The idea that one party is the keeper of the flame is ridiculous.
The idea that Republicans are solely responsible is exactly what "We can't Wait" is pushing. When has he criticised Senate Democrats for intransigence because they ignored the House passed budget or tabled the 2 debt ceiling bills? Instead he complained that REPUBLICANS can't agree to anything.
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I vote to send people to Washington that share my principles, I will not vote for them again if they compromise those principles.
Look, What is the point of sending anyone to congress if they are not willing to make agreements that say, Oh I don't know. Get the debt down. I defend Social Security. So I send a representitive to defend SS. Now I don't mind that we raise the retirement age or do other things to strengthen it. If my view was simply don't do anything but protect the status quo what good would that do anyone. I am willing to cut things. I am willing to restructure. I don't buy the idea that we need to cut taxes on the rich to get the economy moving. It was moving fine when taxes were much higher then now and so it isn't taxes.

Point is we send people to Washington to hopefully strengthen the country. They need to work together to do that. That means give and take. Fu*k a bunch of robots. I want statesmen
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Look, What is the point of sending anyone to congress if they are not willing to make agreements that say, Oh I don't know. Get the debt down. I defend Social Security. So I send a representitive to defend SS. Now I don't mind that we raise the retirement age or do other things to strengthen it. If my view was simply don't do anything but protect the status quo what good would that do anyone. I am willing to cut things. I am willing to restructure. I don't buy the idea that we need to cut taxes on the rich to get the economy moving. It was moving fine when taxes were much higher then now and so it isn't taxes.

Point is we send people to Washington to hopefully strengthen the country. They need to work together to do that. That means give and take. Fu*k a bunch of robots. I want statesmen
So where is Obama's plan to reduce the debt? His budget spending plan adds another $5 trillion to the debt. But the Great Uniter savagely attacked the Republican backed Ryan budget that reduced the debt as forcing autistic children to fend for themselves.
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So where is Obama's plan to reduce the debt? His budget spending plan adds another $5 trillion to the debt. But the Great Uniter savagely attacked the Republican backed Ryan budget that reduced the debt as forcing autistic children to fend for themselves.
You always fall back on the same old BS. What about what this tea party nut said? Let's stay on point.
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You always fall back on the same old BS. What about what this tea party nut said? Let's stay on point.
That's right abandon your position once it is exposed as nonsense. You need a fawning media to give you cover like they do for Obama.
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That's right abandon your position once it is exposed as nonsense. You need a fawning media to give you cover like they do for Obama.
Do you see what the thread is about?
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Do you see what the thread is about?
Okey doke. Since you refused to answer earlier I'll ask again. How is the Right intransigent when the House unanimously rejected Obama's budget proposal and he refuses to offer an alternative?
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Okey doke. Since you refused to answer earlier I'll ask again. How is the Right intransigent when the House unanimously rejected Obama's budget proposal and he refuses to offer an alternative?
He has proposed lots of things. Five of them today. Do you watch the news or just FOX?
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He has proposed lots of things. Five of them today. Do you watch the news or just FOX?
As a matter of fact, Fox News had a portion of his speech on today in which he listed his 5 proposals. The problem with Obama is that he talks about things but never follow through. If he does this correctly, he will have the Senate propose these new bills, get them to pass the legislation and then try to get the House to accept them.

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He has proposed lots of things. Five of them today. Do you watch the news or just FOX?
None of the 5 things he proposed was a budget. That was the question. Please answer it.
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