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I'm surprised that as a nurse you would use a misnomer like "partial birth abortion", or be unaware of why late-term abortions happen or why women sometimes need them.

... or believe that women have no right to privacy based on the fact that they are afforded none in a naval teaching hospital.

(Not to say you're not a good nurse; I have much respect for those who work in the health profession. I just hope that with your views, you work in pediatrics or with the elderly or something.)

Nice duck of the issue. It is inarguable that our country has valued some races over others in the past. And, if feminists are to believed men are still valued over women today. Say, when did women get the vote?

I'll play, what are the "acceptable" limitations on abortion? Is there a number of abortions a particular mother may have? A point at which the unborn child shall be protected except of course late term abortions.

Most states the time limit is 20 weeks or less unless the mother's life is in danger.

As for the number of abortions... no. There's no limit on the number nor should there be.

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These are my opinions. And I strive for understanding in this matter. Really really.

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BTW...partial birth abortion never went away.

If that is true I hope it is for health reasons only.
Need and want for birth control are two different things. I would not stop the former and think the later horrible beyond belief.
[quote]That is an example of what women go through as a matter of course. I think the whole right to privacy is a side step away from the real issue. I would like to see the law based on the real issue. Life.
I'm retired. I would never work i pediatrics. Parents are never there when needed and too much so when not. Besides I could never take a toe tagged baby down stairs. I worked in skilled care nursing at the VA and at a private VA approved nursing home. My favorite diagnosis pt was Alzheimer maybe because it is so hard for the family that often these folks are abandoned to the staff cut off from relatives.

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It's really not, in my experience. And by law, it certainly shouldn't be. And isn't.
Like I said, it is possible to be unaware of one's rights and therefore unable to exercise them. When I see people like this, I do my best to educate and empower them.

I also want to note, just as a side issue, that being in the United States military (any branch) is a unique situation. Upon enlisting, soldiers lose some of the civil rights that the rest of us enjoy.
A female in the military, for instance, is not allowed to get pregnant while deployed. If she does, she faces disciplinary action- most often, an administrative (other-than-honorable) discharge. Or possibly a court marshal.

There is no other situation where an American woman is not allowed to get pregnant or have a baby. American women (like women in the vast majority of the rest of the industrialized world) have freedom of reproductive choice. They can choose when to get pregnant and how many children to have; they can also choose to end an unwanted pregnancy.
But women in the military briefly give up this right, along with many others.
That is why we say they're making a sacrifice for us. Their sacrifice is not just leaving their families and putting themselves in harm's way. It also means temporarily giving up the rights and freedoms of a US citizen, in order to be a soldier and protect those rights and freedoms for us all.
So if things are done differently in military hospitals than they are the private sector, I'm not surprised. When my son was stationed at Fort Jackson, he was ordered to have his wisdom teeth removed by an army dentist, even though they weren't troubling him and he didn't really want them removed.
In civilian life, it would've been his choice. In the military, it's what's best for the military. I guess they don't want to take the risk of deploying soldiers and then having to deal with dental issues in a war zone, or worse- sending them home early; they'd rather preempt such issues by pulling their wisdom teeth before they go.
Anyway, the way things are done in the military (including medical things) has little to do with the way things are done in civilian life. Military personnel do not have the same rights as civilians.

a flippant example got the point side tracked. It isn't about privacy imo it's about health and medical status.
A pregnant woman should think foremost of the offspring she is carrying. That in itself is a very challenging job I know, but it is imperative to the survival of the species.
There are no doubt instances where a woman should not bear an otherwise healthy baby. Maybe she is crazy or the baby was conceived by rape.
I just think abortion is lazily being used as birth control by some and I disapprove of that.

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In my opinion, a pregnant woman "should" think foremost about the offspring she already has.
But you know what?
My opinion isn't worth two farts in a paper bag when it comes to anybody but me, which is also exactly what yours is worth.
A pregnant woman has the right to end her pregnancy if she doesn't wish to become a mother. Her reasons are her own business.

I don't think she has any more "right" to end a pregnancy for no good reason than she does to hook herself up to a dialysis machine without first finding out that it is necessary.
The whole abortion thing came to the fore because DOCTORS were undermined when they wanted to recommend abortions for MEDICAL problems. As I say that could be extended to mental problems but is not a woman's choice any more than it is her choice to undergo transplant therapy without a warranted diagnosis. Where is the diagnosis for a pregnancy to be terminated when it's only due to the woman saying,"Whoops! didn't really mean it-forgot to take my pill!"??
There is none. It should only be done when medically indicated. That does include mental attitude and rape etc.
No a woman does not have a "right" to an abortion. Simple . Plain as I can put it.

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