House GOP probing Planned Parenthood’s records on how it spends taxpayer money - Page 2

foundit66 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

How about cutting waste?? Is that OK to do??

If the Repubs were SERIOUSLY interested in that, they would be looking HARD at the military.

The history on that is atrocious!
Military waste under fire / $1 trillion missing -- Bush plan targets Pentagon accounting - SFGate

But of course, this isn't about waste.
This is about how the Repubs can disguise their witch hunt under another banner, and attack a politically convenient target.
Not an economically convenient one.

If one day the Repubs convened an investigation to find out about the taxes of the upper crust and the loopholes involved, THAT would be something.

Coyote · #12 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

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I certainly don't want to fund abortions. I wish they could also look at anonymous medical records and hand them over to qualified scientists and gynecologists for research.

Why? They don't do that for vasectemies or appendectemies or any other procedures.

Coyote · #13 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:20 PM

The Republicans want nothing more than to drag women back into the stone-age. The biggest service PP forms is in women's health screenings and birth control and SSD's. Do you think the taxpayer supported rightwing pro-life groups will be offering much in the way of birth control? **** no. Just keep your legs closed lady.

When it comes to pregnancies - PP offers information on all alternatives - and pre-natal help. Do you think these other centers do? Nope. Abortion can not be mentioned - not even as a referral.

**** them all.

Coyote · #14 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

Huh? What kind of "research"?

Let them look at your gynecologist's records, if you feel they need something to research. There's no reason Planned Parenthood should hand over confidential medical records, merely because their clients are poor and uninsured.
Planned Parenthood ain't handing over sh!t, I can pretty much guarantee you they'd destroy their records and even face jail time before "handing them over" to anybody, for "research" or any other purpose.
In our country, we use volunteers for medical research, not the poor.

Well said.

AZRWinger · #15 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1069

"Abortion mills".

More like "Prenatal care mills". "PAP smear mills". "Annual pelvic exam mills". "Mammogram mills". "STD treatment mills". "Birth control distribution mills".

All of the preventative procedures you list are redundant to other Federal programs. Cutting off PP from Federal funding would eliminate waste as well as tapayer support for their abortion mills.

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Less than 2% of what planned parenthood does is abortions. A lot of their clinics don't even offer them.
I should know: I've had two, and both times went through private clinics because it's difficult to even find a Planned Parenthood in my vicinity that offers them.
I have, on the other hand, used Planned Parenthood for every other health care need one can imagine, having been uninsured for most of my adult life.
I must say, without them, I'd be a lot less healthy. I may not owe them my life, but I probably owe them my health, my fertility, and the life of the baby I'm carrying now. Without them, I wouldn't've had a way to get my Chlamydia treated years ago, before it turned into PID, scarred up my tubes, and rendered me infertile.

Ending Federal funding for Planned Parenthood would only shut them down if they did not attract sufficient voluntary contributions to keep them operating. What a concept, voluntary charitable contributions instead of enslaving the taxpayer.

I assume you are pro-choice, how about choice for the taxpayer?

If as they claim the abortion mills are independent, they should be able to continue their grisley work slaughtering the unborn uninterrupted.

rivrrat · #16 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger

All of the preventative procedures you list are redundant to other Federal programs. Cutting off PP from Federal funding would eliminate waste as well as tapayer support for their abortion mills.

Ending Federal funding for Planned Parenthood would only shut them down if they did not attract sufficient voluntary contributions to keep them operating. What a concept, voluntary charitable contributions instead of enslaving the taxpayer.

I assume you are pro-choice, how about choice for the taxpayer?

If as they claim the abortion mills are independent, they should be able to continue their grisley work slaughtering the unborn uninterrupted.

Birth control pills can slaughter the unborn just as abortion does. But that's okay to fund with these "other programs"?

AZRWinger · #17 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AK Gandy

Asking for an audit of how public money is spent, should be perfectly acceptable.

Anything that approaches the disclosure of personal information, "supposedly" anonymous or not..........is absolutely unacceptable.

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Well lookey here, Obamacare calls for the creation of a centralized medical records database for everybody. That is supposed to improve health care quality and reduce costs by allowing greater coordination of care for the patient. The only way to achieve this is to have a Federal overseer review your individual records. But don't worry Obama's favorite mega-corporation GE got the contract.

But wait, there is more. Dodd/Frank empowers the consumer credit protection agency to review an individual's financial transactions at the agency's pleasure. Ain't it grand to be so "protected" by big brother O.

AK Gandy · #18 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AZRWinger

Well lookey here, Obamacare calls for the creation of a centralized medical records database for everybody. That is supposed to improve health care quality and reduce costs by allowing greater coordination of care for the patient. The only way to achieve this is to have a Federal overseer review your individual records. But don't worry Obama's favorite mega-corporation GE got the contract.

How silly can you get and what part of the word "disclosure" don't you understand?

There will always be people reviewing your personal medical records, just as there are those that can find out every single financial decision you've ever made.

Neither action is nefarious on its own.

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Coyote · #19 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AK Gandy

How silly can you get and what part of the word "disclosure" don't you understand?

There will always be people reviewing your personal medical records, just as there are those that can find out every single financial decision you've ever made.

Neither action is nefarious on its own.

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Exactly.

faithful_servant · #20 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

You go ahead again with some more of this BS and then try to explain it's about trying to save a buck. You can save more then PP has ever had by stopping the war for one week for crying out loud. This is more BS. You have at it. The right is a waste of time for Americans who need work.

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Originally Posted by foundit66

If the Repubs were SERIOUSLY interested in that, they would be looking HARD at the military.

The history on that is atrocious!
Military waste under fire / $1 trillion missing -- Bush plan targets Pentagon accounting - SFGate

But of course, this isn't about waste.
This is about how the Repubs can disguise their witch hunt under another banner, and attack a politically convenient target.
Not an economically convenient one.

If one day the Repubs convened an investigation to find out about the taxes of the upper crust and the loopholes involved, THAT would be something.

There's no doubt that this is political gamesmanship, but to attack it without letting the issue stand on it's own (without the BS that the two of you are trying) is dishonest. If PPA is using this money to fund or provide them with an opportunity to shift funding to suport abortions, then they are in violation of the law and as such should be dealt with accordingly. I agree that there are bigger fish to fry, but that doesn't mean that this issue should be ignored.

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