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They do participate in SS and Medicare, but lets let them have their own system so there is no question of "taxation without representation".



Ahhh where did you get the idea Puerto Ricans are "brown" at least anymore than I am?

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They pay into these, why can't they participate in these?

I'm really shocked at the attitude towards brown folk here.
People profile themselves by their actions, attitudes, demeanor, speach, lifestyles, and habits. If you wear pot leaf jewelry, clothing, and drive down the road with a foreign flag hanging from your rear view mirror or not with party music blasting singing along to f**k the police, it is a good bet you will be watched and eventually busted. So, you stereotype or stigmatize yourself based on real life anti-social behavior. Common sense and discernment is what we are really talking about here and not racial profiling. If a certain race or ethnic group sets itself up by their common anti-social demeanor and actions then they become a social self-fulfilling prophecy...or a social disease....

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We all know the only reason they want this is because Puerto Rico will vote democrat. It's the same reason they want to allow convicted felons (both ex-cons and those incarcerated) to vote.


And the pay back is not many will pay any taxes if at all. See we lose a lot when there are 2 or 3 threads on the same issue...

Why are the mods allowing this? It is getting out of hand. Combine the same topic threads.

Then we have ALL the links and opinions in one place. I think that would help a lot.

SEE: http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...statehood.html it is in Current News page 2. If nothing else read some of it to get a bigger and better picture of this issue.
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Further proof of the subversion of America by Purto Rico, the global elite and crooked progressive Republicrat politicians:

Using Bilingualism to Subvert America

Puerto Rico Democracy Act ? Legislation Biased in Favor of Statehood | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

Sotomayor's Senate Questionnaire Released | 44 | washingtonpost.com

The Truth Seeker - How Communists Subverted America

http://web.gc.cuny.edu/iradac/confer...t%20Dhouti.pdf

The Social Contract - Funding 'Demographic Warfare'

The Two Malcontents 2010 April

Ethnic politics pushes and passes Puerto Rican Statehood Locust blog

A shooting in Congress wounds state lawmaker - Congress News

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Puerto Rico has been a protectorate of the USA since when? Perhaps the Spanish American War, when the US got the Philipines, I think, not too sure, but it's been part of the US for as long as I can remember.

It appears that we give Peurto Rico money, because we are responsible for it. Why not allow them voting rights in congress, in fact why not try to spread democracy to places that are closer to us than the middle east?

Would you be against giving the people who live in Washington DC voting rights in congress, they don't have any senators?

On March 2, 1917 President Woodrow Wilson signed the Jones Law. This law granted Puerto Ricans American citizenship.

Also, Since Puerto Ricans are american citizens already, why deny them comgressional representation? Are mainland citizens more important than others? Should you tell Hawai'i that?

Here is what I have been able to find so far. It does not say anything about the modern Puerto Rican invasion and impact on our smaller urban and rural communites. It is silent! And, yet it has happened/happening for the most part in many of our communities with the aid of local gov't agencies and our tax/deficit dollars....
Further proof of the subversion of America by Purto Rico, the global Elite and crooked progressive Republicrat politicians:

Using Bilingualism to Subvert America

Puerto Rico Democracy Act ? Legislation Biased in Favor of Statehood | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

Sotomayor's Senate Questionnaire Released | 44 | washingtonpost.com

The Truth Seeker - How Communists Subverted America

http://web.gc.cuny.edu/iradac/confer...t%20Dhouti.pdf

The Social Contract - Funding 'Demographic Warfare'

The Two Malcontents 2010 April

Ethnic politics pushes and passes Puerto Rican Statehood Locust blog

http://politifi.com/news/A-shooting-...er-242612.html

UNC Press - The Puerto Rican Nation on the Move: Identities on the Island and in the United States, by Jorge Duany. Introduction.

http://redalyc.uaemex.mx/pdf/377/37715102.pdf

09.02.12: Puerto Rico: Americanization, Assimilation and Diaspora through Literature and Film

Puerto Rico's Decolonization - Rubén Berríos Martínez

http://www.drclas.harvard.edu/revist...cles/view/1065

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Red Alert Raised in D.C. For Puerto Rican 'Dignity' March - PuertoRico.com Discussion Forum

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Police State legislation, S.3081 introduced by McCain and Scott Brown Conservative Libertarian Outpost
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They pay into these, why can't they participate in these?

I'm really shocked at the attitude towards brown folk here.

I would not say that to my new neighbors who our gov't is helping to pay for their house and new car with the three SSI checks each of their kids get for being learning disable because no one in the home can speak anything but Puerto Rican. They got off the bus and were moved in just prior to the last election along with many others in the community...many people in the community are not too happy about it all. Half my street has started to look like a third world country.

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We all know the only reason they want this is because Puerto Rico will vote democrat. It's the same reason they want to allow convicted felons (both ex-cons and those incarcerated) to vote.
April 28 You Tube on the above. Take the 10 minutes to view it. The part on inmates and them making the wind turbines relating to Jones, becaues the company failed that was suppose to build them. Saying America needs you and your votes.
Some of the other 8 are much shorter. If you have an open mind then spend the time as it connects the dots IMO.

Glenn Beck- Puerto Rico Could Become 51st State If New Bill Passes


There are many more video's there and 9 are on this issue one dating back to Regan. For me it is much easier than checking all the links, but I try both.
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April 28 You Tube on the above. Take the 10 minutes to view it. The part on inmates and them making the wind turbines relating to Jones, becaues the company failed that was suppose to build them. Saying America needs you and your votes.
Some of the other 8 are much shorter. If you have an open mind then spend the time as it connects the dots IMO.

Glenn Beck- Puerto Rico Could Become 51st State If New Bill Passes

YouTube - Glenn Beck- Puerto Rico Could Become 51st State If New Bill Passes

There are many more video's there and 9 are on this issue one dating back to Regan. For me it is much easier than checking all the links, but I try both.
Our "Leaders" have forsaken -their own people- with their DIRECT efforts to IGNORE LAW, and make foreign aliens into citizens -contrary to the wishes of the people who trusted them, -and the Constitution of the United States of America. Shame on them all. And they should ALL know better because they took an OATH OF OFFICE to protect AMERICAN CITIZENS "from all enemies both foreign and domestic" when they accepted their job. -specifically, to wit:

" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God. "

I don't care how many 'migrants' have arrived in this country. They broke the law. LAWS Congress Passed. Laws the government took a lot of our good money to write. Laws now IGNORED by these SAME "Leaders".

To NOT enforce them is dereliction of duty, fraud -and very probably treason.


-NO Pardons, -NO Amnesty- NOT for ONE invading alien!


VOTE THEM ----ALL---- OUT----- in November 2010

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This is a very good example of the lack of concern for the well being of our people by them traitorous dogs in our gov't. They are less concerned about Muslims or any other anti-Americans coming into our Country, and more concerned with screwing us out of our wealth and our freedom at any cost....

Please read article below from the NRA. My concern is that this bill could give Holder the opportunity to add tea partiers, pro-lifers, all conservatives to the list of those who can not own guns. Remember, these have all been call terrorists in the past!! So what would make these not applicable in Holder's eyes? We need to contact our representatives and let them know of the possibilities of this bill. What you see is not what is really happening!!! Pass this to everyone on your list!

Senate Hearing Promotes Anti-American Watchlist Bills

Since September 11, 2001, it's been clear that terrorists who hate America will exploit our weaknesses in order to destroy us. This week, Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) and New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg exploited Americans' fear of terrorism to push their latest anti-gun proposal, and in doing so showed that they're willing to destroy other parts of the Constitution, to choke its Second Amendment.

On Tuesday, as chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, Lieberman held a hearing to give Lautenberg and King the opportunity to promote their bills S.1317 and H.R.2159, to prohibit the possession of firearms by people on the FBI's "terrorist watchlist," and Lautenberg's S. 2820, to maintain records of approved instant background check transactions for a minimum of 180 days. The watchlist bills further propose that a person seeking relief in court from these new restrictions would be prevented from examining and challenging "evidence" against him, and that the judge deciding whether the person had been watchlisted for good reason be limited to summaries and redacted versions of such "evidence."

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From Terror Surveillance List Before Attackby Jim Hoft
More hope and change…

Faisal Shahzad was removed from the national terrorist surveillance list before the Times Square attack.


(CBS News)

Confessed terrorist Faisal Shahzad was removed from the Department of Homeland Security travel lookout list sometime after Barack Obama came into office.


CBS reported:

Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999 and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash instruments into the United States.

The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.

George LaMonica, a 35-year-old computer consultant, said he bought his two-bedroom condominium in Norwalk, Conn., from Mr. Shahzad for $261,000 in May 2004. A few weeks after he moved in, Mr. LaMonica said, investigators from the national Joint Terrorism Task Force [JTTF] interviewed him, asking for details of the transaction and for information about Mr. Shahzad. It struck Mr. LaMonica as unusual, but he said detectives told him they were simply “checking everything out.”


The Strata Sphere is all over this story.

Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad.

We all know what happened next.

Last week Faisal almost blew a hole in the middle of Times Square.

The only thing that saved the people of New York was Faisal’s incompetence.

UPDATE: Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.


ABC reported:

Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad, including the figure who has emerged as a central figure in many recent domestic terror attempts – radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki.

Besides Awlaki, sources say Shahzad was also linked to a key figure in the Pakistani Taliban, its Emir Beitullah Mehsud, who was killed in a drone missile strike in 2009. The Mehsuds had been family friends of Shahzad, who is the son of a former high-ranking Pakistani military officer.

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/...before-attack/

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