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Old 04-16-2010, 03:19 PM
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Shouldn't this be treated as a "hate crime"? if any other group is singled out it is. Oh wait, these people were Republicans AND white. That will never happen.
treat it as a hate crime how?

has anybody been caught?

has anybody even proved it was a "hate crime?"

how does one "treat" motive when there is no suspect, let alone arrest?

or were you just spouting hyperbole?
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treat it as a hate crime how?

has anybody been caught?

has anybody even proved it was a "hate crime?"

how does one "treat" motive when there is no suspect, let alone arrest?

or were you just spouting hyperbole?

If the victims in this case were black, you would have already seen protests and threats aganist the city, calls for boycotts and maybe even a little looting and rioting.

But since they are white, you see restraint. Interesting contrast.

Not that I expect you to be able to understand that. You will assume I am racist simply because I point out a fact.

So go ahead, attack and make my point for me.
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:23 PM
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Until Allee, or her boyfriend speak, or somebody is actually charged there's no hard evidence the incident was politically motivated.

That sure didn't stop the right wing bloggers from making if "fact" now, does it?

However...the lack of evidence did not stop the lamescream media from posting front page shoutouts claiming the Black Caucus was spit on, and called the N word at the Washington rally when there was, and remains no evidence to support this. In fact the spit allegation has been proven to be untrue. One has to ask why?

Another lie. It has NOT been proven untrue. It's been CALLED untrue by the bimbos of the tea party. But, that's hardly proof. There have been many reporters and bystanders who have validated the accusations. The only ones who DON'T believe it's true are those who are determined to make their party look pure and innocent.

However...Allee Bautsch has not gone public with her version of events. One has to ask why.
I mean this sincerely - if there was any truth to the allegations that it was politically motivated, I believe she'd be touting this on every talk show on FAUX news.
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That sure didn't stop the right wing bloggers from making if "fact" now, does it?
I suggest this is not correct. The blog reporting, and least that from the major Right Wing blogs has been quite fair. The impression you are getting it has not, comes from your reading of other sources which mixes up the way the news came out.

The story about Palin pins, came from a source identified as a "friend" of the victims, and was reported as such. It was never reported as fact. As soon as the evidence came out there were no pins it was immediately reported by the right wing blogs covering the story as such. This was then reported by the opposition media in a way to suggest the right was trying to present the pin allegation as fact.

The right has been reporting the same facts the left has, however it has been reporting more of them, and reporting them first. The left then cherry picks the details it likes to present the story it wants to tell.

As way of example. Michelle Malkin has just now uncovered the police report.

Michelle Malkin New Orleans beating follow-up: Attackers yelled “Little blonde b*tch,” “f**king faggot,” nothing political

There are 2 key facts in this report. One is the group of assailants did follow the couple from the political event at the restaurant. The other is this...

"It should be noted that other than making reference to the victims being nicely dressed, along with other observations about their physical appearance, Mr. Brown did not hear them make any other comments."

In other words Brown could not identify the comments as political.

I suggest when that news filters down to you in the sources you are using, the 'tailing from the political event' will be minimized, but the 'no evidence of politically charged comments' will be stressed.

Incidentally this bit from the police report is interesting too...

"As they neared the intersection, Mr. Brown stated he heard subjects state thing such as, ‘Little blonde bitch,’ ‘You’re a fu**king faggot,’ and ‘You think you’re fu**king special.’ At this point Mr. Brown realized these derogatory terms were being directed at Ms. Bautsch and him. He then requested she begin to walk faster toward the Omni-Royal hotel located at the intersection of St. Louis and Royal. Mr. Brown also recalled the farther they got from the restaurant, the closer these subjects got to them. "
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muggers following well dressed, apparently well-heeled people from a fund raising (read: wealthy) convention???? what will those muggers think of next.


I'm sorry. You're just stating exactly what I wrote: that there is NO proof that this was politically motivated - there is not even a suggestion of it beyond some right wing bloggers until the FAUX-Newsers caught it up. But you're trying to make it a condemnation of people on the Left. That's simply absurd revisionist crap.
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If the victims in this case were black, you would have already seen protests and threats aganist the city, calls for boycotts and maybe even a little looting and rioting.

But since they are white, you see restraint. Interesting contrast.

Not that I expect you to be able to understand that. You will assume I am racist simply because I point out a fact.

So go ahead, attack and make my point for me.
LOL - disagree with you and that makes you correct? LOL LOL LOL that's quite a scam you go going there. Reminds me of the Catholic church. LOL Question me and my statements and prove the devil has you LOL LOL

If you don't think black people are mugged in every major city in the United States every day of the week, you're woefully uninformed.
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Should you like to prove the right wing blogs have been misrepresenting this story though, the best way to do that would be to actually read what the major right wing blogs have been saying. I mentioned Michelle Malkin's and provided a link.

The one which has been covering this story most diligently is the one originally linked to.

The French Quarter Fracas: Information Solidifies (Updated, 2:08 p.m) | The Hayride

Also active have been this one...

Gateway Pundit

Check that one out for sure. It might be your best bet at showing bias. It's bias is sometimes the sort you're looking for.

This one has been covering the story too...

Hot Air Blog Archive Police report: No evidence of political motive in beating of Jindal staffer
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yep. the updated story is that there is NO proof that there was ANYTHING political about this (unheard of in New Orleans' French Quarter!) mugging.
If they say they did not hear anything political then no proof it was said.

Now the question of a hate crime.
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I'm sorry. You're just stating exactly what I wrote: that there is NO proof that this was politically motivated - there is not even a suggestion of it beyond some right wing bloggers until the FAUX-Newsers caught it up. But you're trying to make it a condemnation of people on the Left. That's simply absurd revisionist crap.
No. Again you do that thing where you cherry pick details to obfuscate my point. Specifically I'm saying the right wing blogs never did report the claim the assault was politically motivated as fact. They reported the facts as they came out, more facts than the other media was providing, and they reported them first. Yes they added their suspicions, and support for where those suspicions were coming from, but they did not report their suspicions as fact.

As for Fox news reporting of the details, I think you might want to check out some of the actual stories before you jump to conclusions. Most recently Fox interviewed Allee's mother.

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BURNING: Honestly this is not a Republican or Democrat problem, this is a problem that a young girl and her boyfriend were attacked and the story hasn’t really come out. And I just want to make sure that these guys are found. That’s the important part of this. There is accuracy in the story. I just think that yes when you do the investigation you do look at the people who were in the area at the time, to be able to bring the right people in for questioning. That’s the really important part.

If the police are doing the ground work and they’re doing the investigation correctly then certain people are definitely going to be brought in.

KELLY: I know that they’re looking at all of the people who were outside of the event at the time. Do you know, did your daughter get a good description of the people who attacked her?

BURNING: They were very average looking kids — not necessarily kids that you think would harm you. That’s their description of them, but I’m not going to say that they looked like Republicans or Democrats. I’m tired of everybody doing th[a]t.
UPDATE: Mother of Beaten Jindal Staffer Breaks Silence to Fox News - HUMAN EVENTS
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okay

I'm tired of you saying EXACTLY the same thing as I already have, but somehow trying to cloak it in Left skullduggery.

I'm through.
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