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US Congress & The Legislative Branch Discuss President Wrong on Citizens United Case at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by faithful_servant Break out the tinfoil, salty's online.... Maybe the justices who voted with Judge Alito understood that ...

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:22 PM
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Break out the tinfoil, salty's online....

Maybe the justices who voted with Judge Alito understood that this nation has a foundational concept of no taxation without representation. If you're going to tax them, then they deserve a voice.
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C-O-R-P-O-R-A-T-I-O-N-S are not people.
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:14 PM
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C-O-R-P-O-R-A-T-I-O-N-S are not people.
Then I'll type slow so you can understand this...

The ruling was NOT about corporations...

The ruling was admonishing Congress for making an unconstitutional law restricting the 1st amendment...
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I shutter when I hear people proclaim that all three branches of government are equal. They are not.

Congress has the most power.
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I shutter when I hear people proclaim that all three branches of government are equal. They are not.

Congress has the most power.
Easily...
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Then I'll type slow so you can understand this...

The ruling was NOT about corporations...

The ruling was admonishing Congress for making an unconstitutional law restricting the 1st amendment...
Yes well the SC screwed up that interpretation then didn't it.
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Corporations are nothing but a group of individuals.

How can you justify taking away an individuals right under the 1st amendment simply because that person belongs to a group?
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1) Irrelevant of Dem, Repub, Conservative or Liberal, I would hope that we'd all agree that the president should never use the State of the Union to scold the Supreme Court for a ruling they disagree with...
I really don't have a problem with Obama criticizing their decision in that format. If the critics opinion of the ruling play out like they are predicting, I think it will have a direct impact on our political process of electing lawmakers, which is relevant to the SOTU.

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2) Look at the response of Obama's scolding of the SC...A Democratic standing ovation...

Proud Dems?...Anyone NOT off limits to smears and attacks???...:
Nothing is off limits by either party. If some of the Republicans who support campaign finance reform could have remained anonymous they would have been standing also, especially McCain.
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I read this yesterday and want to add it here;

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“The President’s swipe at the Supreme Court was a breach of decorum, and represents the worst of Washington politics — scapegoating ‘special interest’ bogeymen for all that ails Washington in attempt to silence the diverse range of speakers in our democracy,” said Bradley A. Smith, chairman of the Center for Competitive Politics, in The Corner blog on Nationalreview.com.
The funny thing is you had the libs up in arms when what's his name yelled "you lie" to obama during his last speech to the congress. Now obama does the same to the SC and every one says, "oh, that's OK." I see a double standard, but that's nothing new for the left.
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C-O-R-P-O-R-A-T-I-O-N-S are not people.
National Constitution Center - Centuries of Citizenship - Colonists are protesting “taxation without representation”

I never said that they were, what I said was that if you are going to require that they fulfill the responsbilities, then they get the rights. If you're going to force them to pay taxes, then they deserve a voice in the imposition of those taxes. I agree completely that they aren't people, but that doesn't mean they don't have rights.
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Corporations are nothing but a group of individuals.

How can you justify taking away an individuals right under the 1st amendment simply because that person belongs to a group?
Corporations are at best a group of individuals. Sometimes it is only one individual spreading his tax responsibility around.
However you cut it this ruling gives too much power (as in more) to certain individuals over others.
Do you agree it is wrong to buy an election? Cut to the chase here, that is what we are talking about. I say it is wrong for any individual or entity to buy an election, to buy a politician.
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