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Bloomberg, Tom Randall.. 22 hrs ago
Tesla Completes Its First Solar Roof Installs

A better 3 slide view is below. Plus more info.

Tesla Completes Its First Solar Roof Installs

I am going to put a bit away each month in case I need to top the house out..
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Kinda like protecting Harley-Davison motorcycles...

Solar Boom or Bust? Companies Seek Tariffs on Solar Imports
September 22, 2017 - Cheap solar panels imported from China and other countries have led to a boom in the U.S. solar industry, where rooftop and other installations have surged 10-fold since 2011.
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But two U.S. solar manufacturers say the flood of imports has led one to bankruptcy and forced the other to lay off three-quarters of its workforce. The International Trade Commission is set to decide Friday whether the imports, primarily from Asia, are causing "serious injury" to the companies. If so, the commission will recommend this fall whether the Trump administration should impose tariffs that could double the price of solar panels from abroad.

President Donald Trump has not cozied up to the solar industry, as he has for coal and other fossil fuels, but he is considered sympathetic to imposing tariffs on solar imports as part of his "America first" philosophy. A White House spokeswoman declined to comment Thursday. Both sides of the dispute were making their case ahead of Friday's meeting. "Simply put, the U.S. industry cannot survive under current market conditions," a lawyer for Georgia-based Suniva Inc. wrote in a petition filed with the commission. Suniva brought the case with Oregon-based SolarWorld Americas.

Opposition to tariffs

Governors of four solar-friendly states ó Nevada, Colorado, Massachusetts and North Carolina ó oppose the tariff, warning it could jeopardize the industry. They cited a study showing that a global tariff could cause solar installations to drop by more than 50 percent in two years, a crushing blow as states push for renewable energy that does not contribute to climate change. "The requested tariff could inflict a devastating blow on our states' solar industries and lead to unprecedented job loss, at steep cost to our states' economies," the two Republicans and two Democrats wrote in a letter Thursday to the trade commission.


Solar panels are seen in Yinchuan, Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, China

A group of former U.S. military officials also urged the Trump administration to reject solar tariffs, noting that the Defense Department is the nation's largest energy consumer and follows a federal law calling for the Pentagon to procure 25 percent of its energy from renewable sources by 2025. Suniva called the case a matter of fairness. Even with better manufacturing methods, lower costs and "dramatically improved efficiency," the company has "suffered substantial losses due to global imports," Suniva said in its petition. The company declared bankruptcy this spring after laying off 190 employees and closing production sites in Georgia and Michigan.

SolarWorld Americas, meanwhile, has trimmed its workforce from 1,300 to 300, with more cuts likely. "After nearly 30 factories have shut down in the wake of surging imports, the legacy of this pioneering American industry hangs in the balance," said Juergen Stein, CEO and president of SolarWorld Americas. "We believe that the promise of solar ó energy sustainability and independence ó can be realized only with healthy American manufacturing to supply growing U.S. demand," Stein said in a statement to The Associated Press.

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Environmental Impacts of Solar Power | Union of Concerned Scientists

Personally, I think the individual use of solar energy for wide field ag water pumps, solar driven water heaters for winter water tanks for cattle, and small scale home use can be beneficial.

There are also passive solar heating capabilities that do not involve the panels that use toxic materials to be created.

I don't see solar being a replacement for fossil fuels, but rather a supplement.
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The more they find uses the better I like it. I am rooting them on.
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Not just America but the world needs to get off fossil fuels... The sooner the better I say.

In time we shall but will it be that we took to long to make the needed changes?
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Not just America but the world needs to get off fossil fuels... The sooner the better I say.

In time we shall but will it be that we took to long to make the needed changes?
And when do you think a complete changeover would happen?
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And when do you think a complete changeover would happen?
Now GottaGo you asked an important question. And it is way above my pay grade, sorry... Aww I tried to answer it and now my head hurts....
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And when do you think a complete changeover would happen?
Somewhere around the second day of never. Fossil fuels isn't even the real problem. It is use of petroleum products by society at large(plastic anyone?).
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Last time I checked, the average solar roof cost around $60-70 K. Government subsidy 30% or around $20 - 25 K. Without the subsidy solar roofs are not close to cost effective.

Not to imply that the will never be. Just not yet.
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Somewhere around the second day of never. Fossil fuels isn't even the real problem. It is use of petroleum products by society at large(plastic anyone?).
According to some, when the VW diesel-gate story broke, tens of thousands of babies died because of the excess emissions.

People just don't understand the extent of petroleum product use in everyday living aside from vehicle travel. after all, let's protest a petroleum company from plastic kayaks, and see if anyone takes them seriously.
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