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The biodiesel from algae would come ready to use.

The filtration of cooking oil from restaurants does not take much time and energy.
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That question about the new "low-sulfur" diesel engines.
Bio-diesel is NO-sulfur.

As to places already selling Bio-diesel. It costs MORE than regular diesel. (and that french fryer only holds a few gallons) A truck uses over 10 gallons every hour of operation.
The most IMPORTANT part of using an alternative energy source is that it MUST be cheaper and/or more efficient.
That is why I so often scoff at all those that keep on insisting "Alternatives are the way to go". The prices for petrol based sources has more than tripled in the last ten years and it STILL isn't cheaper for those alternatives. Duh

NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS would make ALL the electricity you could ever use(and cheaply too)and electric cars would eliminate the demand for petrols. We KNEW this in the 50's but some socialist activists came along in the 60's and 70's with some pretty MORONIC ideas. More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than at Three Mile Island. Which by the way STILL operates a nuclear power plant.
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The most IMPORTANT part of using an alternative energy source is that it MUST be cheaper and/or more efficient.
That's what it comes down to...

The public pays around $3.50 per gallon now...

If someone asks them if they'll pay $5.00 per gallon to save the planet, they'll be laughed at by the the majority...

Make it $2.00 per gallon and they'll flock...
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That's what it comes down to...

The public pays around $3.50 per gallon now...

If someone asks them if they'll pay $5.00 per gallon to save the planet, they'll be laughed at by the the majority...

Make it $2.00 per gallon and they'll flock...
It's already being sold and it costs the same. Why would the makers of bio d want less than the going price?
By the way, gasoline/traditional diesel will go up to 5 dollars/gal. It's coming sooner than you think. Because people will pay and they won't stop traveling all over the place even if it went to 10 dollars a gal.
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Yes it just amazes me that the same people that demand alternative fuels(that do cost more)complain so loudly about the cost of gasoline as it begins to approach the cost of those alternatives. That 180 proof sells for $20-$30 per gallon in dry counties.
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Speaking of nuclear power plants. Oh that was me. Wasn't it?

Ever consider putting them on "oil platforms" off the coast. It would make them impossible to have meltdowns, easily defensible, not in anybodies back yard, somewhat portable, within a 100 miles of almost 80% of our population, cheaper to build, and mass produceable to mention a few advantages.
After all we have had how many nuclear powered vessels traveling the oceans for well over 50 years now.
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"Dirty Jobs" had a show with a guy whose car ran on cooking oil Mike Rowe had to collect...There was one SMALL change to the engine for it to work, but it did...

Here's the problem though...

The guy had to create a filtration sytem in his garage in order to get the oil to the correct cleanliness and specs...

A) That's not something the general public would be willing to do...

B) I don't know the feasability of having stations that perform that task to make the oil clean enough for public consumption...

Proving it CAN be done is one thing....
Proving it can be done on a national scale AND keeping costs down is quite another...
You are right about the filtration step in the process. However, Biodiesel from Algae would most likely be a commodity sold on the market ready to use
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You are right about the filtration step in the process. However, Biodiesel from Algae would most likely be a commodity sold on the market ready to use
I'm just pointing out that everytime someone shows me how a car is being run on something other than the current fuel, that doesn't necessarily mean that it could be done feasably or on a large scale...

Every year Austarlia has a solar-powered car race...If it was feasable, we'd all have them by now...

"This science works" doesn't necessarily equate to "This science works and can be used everywhere cheaper."...
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We can pay $5 a gallon for gas. Its OK by me. But if are doing it just to make bigger profits for big oil I don't.
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I'm just pointing out that everytime someone shows me how a car is being run on something other than the current fuel, that doesn't necessarily mean that it could be done feasably or on a large scale...

Every year Austarlia has a solar-powered car race...If it was feasable, we'd all have them by now...

"This science works" doesn't necessarily equate to "This science works and can be used everywhere cheaper."...
But bio-diesel is just diesel from a different source, the only difference being that it is cleaner than petro-diesel, so if it can be produced cheaply enough then running it only requires that you have a diesel engine.
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