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Old 08-04-2009, 09:22 AM
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Wow ... just wow.

They should at least give us the option of just picking up a voucher and giving it to someone else (of course, then you would have everyone selling them, which would probably be a much better economic stimulus than this pork laden thing we got). My daughter and myself are quite healthy and both of us would prefer my elderly mother get the vaccination than wasting it on us first.

The government is letting grandparents die. Kinda sad.
Trends are showing that this virus specifically attacks the "young and healthy" far worse than others.

I seriously believe that this virus was "designed" because somehow the government agencies and the media was "ahead" of the epidemic. Tell me please when ever in all of history has that happened. I smell "strategic control" of the news media because news from outlying districts in a 3'rd world country just arrived TOO fast. From the moment it began I was suspicious of the fact that they KNEW it was Mexican Flying Pig flu right from the beginning without even time to "culture" it.
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And that's just what all the flak is intended to do. It was on the agenda for every major insurance company. See my thread about it in the health and science section.
I don't believe that NONE of this is caused by the insurance companies but even you have to ADMIT that the insurance companies are REGULATED quite heavily by first the feds and then by EVERY state so the question becomes "WHO" is at fault....those MAKING the rules or those FOLLOWING them.

Just watch how the administration just keeps on "demonizing" about every crisis and if their first attack doesn't work then they shift the target.Each week it was someone different. They have rotated between the doctors, the pharmaceutical companies, the hospitals, the medical suppliers etc......what is most important though is that somehow those that align with them escape attack even though they are definitely part of the problem......Law suits and unions.
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Good Post but now that the WH has a inform on anyone that disagrees. I have to say the flopped eared idiot has gone to far. End Comment.

My civil rights are being trampled on. Yours too................ AND BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING............
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Good Post but now that the WH has a inform on anyone that disagrees. I have to say the flopped eared idiot has gone to far. End Comment.

My civil rights are being trampled on. Yours too................ AND BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING............
but those on the left could care less lurpy and that's the problem. As you can see they will defend Obama in everything he does regardless of how much it hurts this nation and our liberty's.
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but those on the left could care less lurpy and that's the problem. As you can see they will defend Obama in everything he does regardless of how much it hurts this nation and our liberty's.
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Think about this a bit... No it isn't an e-mail so you can't report me on this. Report yahoo News.

Expanding Health Coverage May Not Improve Access..........

By Karen Pallarito
HealthDay Reporter by Karen Pallarito
healthday Reporter 55 mins ago

FRIDAY, Aug. 7 (HealthDay News) -- Even if Congress extends health coverage to the nation's 46 million uninsured Americans, there's no guarantee that everyone will have access to care -- unless payment reforms and new models of care are adopted, some experts say.


Significantly expanding coverage without reforming health-care delivery is "a recipe for failure," said Alwyn Cassil, a spokeswoman for the Center for Studying Health System Change in Washington, D.C. "You won't be able to sustain the expanded coverage because it will just bankrupt us."


Spending on health care this year is projected to reach $2.5 trillion, or 17.6 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of Medicare and Medicaid data. That's up from 7.2 percent in 1970, and by 2018 it could swell to one-fifth of the GDP, which is a measure of all goods and services produced in the United States.


Meanwhile, a worsening shortage of primary-care providers and rising demand for certain specialists will continue to strain the system, perhaps creating long waits for appointments.


The existing health-care delivery system cannot seamlessly respond to a surge in demand for services, said Jeffrey Bauer, a medical economist.


This is "one of the Achilles heels of reform," said Bauer, management consulting partner at Affiliated Computer Services Inc. and leader of the health futures practice at ACS Healthcare Solutions in Chicago.


"People are already strapped to get a doctor," Bauer said. "As more people have insurance, they will try to get appointments with more doctors, and that will lead to dramatic increases in the time it takes to get an appointment."


Depending on the coverage people have, where they live and whether they have an existing relationship with a physician, some Americans could encounter long delays in getting in to see a doctor.
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I'm watching these brain-dead, vigilante moron's protesting health care at these town hall meetings thinking, "Can American's get any more stupid?"

Glenn Beck should be arrested!
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I'm watching these brain-dead, vigilante moron's protesting health care at these town hall meetings thinking, "Can American's get any more stupid?"

Glenn Beck should be arrested!
They could keep voting the same idiots into office who think that UHC can work without crippling our economy.
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I'm watching these brain-dead, vigilante moron's protesting health care at these town hall meetings thinking, "Can American's get any more stupid?"

Glenn Beck should be arrested!
And you should be a Senator running for POTUS...

America is waking up and like those in power getting the heat are plain crazy like those in power.

What can't you see that a lot of political debate has given rise to results. Now the results don't please you.

Did either you or FS read the last post on the Hc above.... This is what NO TRANSPARENTLY OR DETAILS gets you...
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They could keep voting the same idiots into office who think that UHC can work without crippling our economy.
Nothing has crippled our economy more than starting 2 wars and de-regulating the financial industry. So don't give me this bull**** argument you have with health care. If you cared about the economy, you wouldn't have voted for Bush!
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