Why is it we believe that because we don't agree with the politics of a people that they must have a goal of taking us over? Its like a tired old refrain. We spy on them. They spy on us. Why do we spy on them? For our own defense. Why do they spy on us? Same reason. Do we plan to take over China? No. Do they plan on taking over the U.S.? I doubt that they have any such plan.

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They sure would like to knock us down and humiliate us given the chance. And we are not the ones playing chicken on the high seas either. The only reason I can see that they would do this is to try to provoke a response that they in turn could use as provocation to start something. They want to be the big guy on the block for a change. The sabre rattling coming from all these communist regimes can't be ignored.

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They do more than spy. Big Picture. The US has thousands if not millions of cyber attacks each and every day form these same countries. What about the NY case. And look at all the past several years of in country spying by people who give it up to China and Russia. Now that isn't what we are doing!
If one cyber attack came from any intell group here you can bet these same countries would have more than words to say.

http://www.lordtobyharris.org.uk/at-...puter-systems/

In the UK there’s always been a reluctance to acknowledge the extent to which government computer systems are subjected to and often fall victim to cyber-attacks from those trying to plant malicious code so as to steal or manipulate data. My attempts to obtain statistics (however imperfect) by Parliamentary Questions to Government departments were blocked, as were my offers to arrange external penetration testing of individual systems.

It is refreshing therefore to come across the openness with which these issues are discussed in the United States. The front page of today’s ‘USA Today’ carries a story saying ‘Raids on federal computer data soar’ quoting data from US-CERT


Just one report.

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China NEEDS us. They've got a big problem coming up with a couple of million more young men than young women (thanks to their "one-child" policy and abortion/infanticide being used to have more boys than girls). This is NOT a good thing and IMO, may very well end up being the end of China as we know it. Once these young men start getting unhappier and unhappier about not having a wife (and therefore children), there's a strong chance of another revolution. This kind of dissatification tends to create outlets that have little bearing on the source of the problem. "Feeling rotten because you don't have a wife? It's the gov't that's to blame!! Lets throw those bums out and take thier wives!!!!" But, if China can keep all those young men happily working away and keep thier wallets fat, they may be able to keep them distracted enough to forestall this problem. China needs to keep these young men as busy as possible and give them some kind of personal satisfaction outside of marriage and for most men that means WORK.

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Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

We're not standing in thier way, we're bankrolling them on thier path.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

The small issue that you're missing is the fact that the US's military capabilities outweigh the rest of the planet's abilities combined. We've got far too much of a technological edge for anyone (or even everyone) to enter into a conventional war with us and have any hope of winning. China knows this. Russia knows this. Iran knows this. Friggin' Sri Lanka knows this. A world-wide conventional war is almost past the point of even being the least bit possible. Economic warfare is another question. In an economic battle, China and the US are far too connected to be on opposite sides. We need them and they need us.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

Yea young men in the military or society. Guess if told to attack they could have women would be a solid reason to listen. Much better than 70 virgins if you die.
Just a thought. I mean why was this policy even considered? To have men for the military. And they do have a very large Militay. And plenty of young men to be called up.
Sure this was an older policy but why was it even considered? And why is it still in use? The govt. knew families would want males to work etc. and female babies would be tossed aside! Again WHY?

In these regions they take their time and plan each thing out.

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And that tech could be shut down with one high altitude explosion.

April 21, 2006
The EMP Threat: ElectroMagnetic Pulse Warfare
By J.R. Dunn
Concerns are rising about the threat of an EMP (ElectroMagnetic Pulse) attack, aimed at destroying our electronic guts. What if our computers and other electronics didn't work? What if electronic records of your bank account were immobilized? What would happen to our technology—dependent transportation, financial, and production systems?

America's vulnerability to EMP (ElectroMagnetic Pulse) attack looms large in the minds of many. Public attention was focused on the topic by the release in 2005 of a government—sponsored study by the congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack. The results were further publicized by Frank J. Gaffney in a widely—read article, 'EMP: America's Achilles' Heel',� and was also featured in his recent book, War Footing —10 Steps America Must Take to Prevail in the War for the Free World.
Read it all here... American Thinker: The EMP Threat: ElectroMagnetic Pulse Warfare

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I don't believe China is doing this intentionally... they poisoned their own babies with poisonous formula and did more harm to their own than they have done to us.

It's really quite simple, China is a massive country in terms of population and numbers of manufacturing companies exploding onto the market, their regulations are lax, their companies are out to make a quick buck, and they are cutting corners - BIG TIME.

Lead paint in children's toys, date rape drugs in children's toys (cheaper chemical substituted for a similar more expensive one), poisonous milk products, poisonous drywall... All the problems are results of substituting cheaper, more dangerous ingredients for better ones to save a buck.

We all just need to stop buying cheap chinese crap... as if that were even an option anymore.

I get a kick out of these folks that want to defend china... "Oh, don't blame the poor innocent chinese, American products are just as bad..."

Of course when it is their walls that are leaking corrosive gases, or baby formula is killing their children, or their 5 year old in a coma from a drug overdose from a chinese toy, or their dog that dies from poisonous dog food... I wonder if they'll be so quick to defend China then?

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You are a paranoid. They are busy dealing with overheated growth. They have issues up the wazoo they are dealing with. Why would they want to pick a fight? We depend on each others economies. If we crash so do they. What is it about people in this country? If you disagree with someones political system they must be out to get us. This nis moronic thinking. China hasn't been trying to sppread their beliefs. In fact they are changing their system all the time. They now are developing a couryt system based on ours. So people can have redress. People can sue companies now that pollute. China wouldn't have allowed that even 10 years ago. You really have to stop being paranoid of China. They don't like when we tell them what we think they should do. So what? Who would like it when a start up country goes around telling a country that has been there for a thousand years how to act. So sometimes they get a little pissy.
And I am not saying they don't have faults. But we have done dumb **** as well. They are leary of us. We are leary of them. But this idea that Chian is out to get us is just paranoia. You need to go to China with me sometime. We seem to think the world orbits around what we do. I have noticed over the last 10 years or so that we are becoming less relevant in the world. And you would be surprised how much people could give a crap about what we do. We are full of ourselves.

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