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Default Neanderthal Art Found.. So Science admitting fully human

I've been saying this for a while.


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http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/sci...nderthals.html
Top 10 Misconceptions About Neanderthals
this is actually a pretty cool list
Top 10 Misconceptions About*Neanderthals - Listverse

But Here's the thing.
where did people get these "Misconceptions"? We all got them from scientist.
the scientist who told us for decades that Neanderthals were "ape"-men and less than human, couldn't talk , didn't have tools, etc etc found in the new list.
they ASSUMED Neanderthals were like that? why? they had a preconceived theory they were trying to plug something into maybe?

they've used Neanderthals as "proof" to promote the idea of human evolution. Now Scientist are creeping their way to admitting that neanderthals were humans. Rather than just making a flat footed admission that they were just wrong to make all the evolutionary assumptions.

So anyway like many other mislabeled and fraudulent claims (Nebraska Man, piltdown man) of "missing links" the evolutionary speculations about neanderthals will go into the the waste bin of of history.
"Now Scientist are creeping their way to admitting that neanderthals were humans. "
So this latest discovery about Neanderthal Art seems to be the final straw.


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U-Th dating of carbonate crusts reveals Neandertal origin of Iberian cave art | Science
U-Th dating of carbonate crusts reveals Neandertal origin of Iberian cave art
Neandertal cave art | Science
...Hoffmann et al. used uranium-thorium dating of carbonate crusts to show that cave paintings from three different sites in Spain must be older than 64,000 years. These paintings are the oldest dated cave paintings in the world. Importantly, they predate the arrival of modern humans in Europe by at least 20,000 years, which suggests that they must be of Neandertal origin. The cave art comprises mainly red and black paintings and includes representations of various animals, linear signs, geometric shapes, hand stencils, and handprints. Thus, Neandertals possessed a much richer symbolic behavior than previously assumed....
Cave paintings were found at three separate sites in Spain some 700 km apart, indicating that the practice was widespread and not a fluke.

National Geographic, co-author J. Zilhão welcomes Neanderthals as full members of the human race:
“The conclusion has to be that Neanderthals were cognitively indistinguishable [from Homo sapiens], and the Neanderthal versus sapiens dichotomy is therefore invalid,” argues Zilhão. “Neanderthals were Homo sapiens, too.”
BBC News:
“Neanderthals were capable of making art. Contrary to the traditional view of them as brutes, it turns out that Neanderthals were artists…. Art was previously thought to be a behaviour unique to our species (Homo sapiens) and far beyond our evolutionary cousins.” Another subsection bears the title, “Knuckle-draggers no more.”
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ution-science/
“Long before Picasso, ancient artists in what is now Spain were making creative works of their own, mixing pigments, crafting beads out of seashells, and painting murals on cave walls. The twist? These artistic innovators were probably Neanderthals.”

“Neanderthals appear to have had a cultural competence that was shared by modern humans,” says John Hawks, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison who wasn’t involved with the study. “They were not dumb brutes, they were recognizably human.” …

“If you were to get a hundred representative archaeologists and ask them whether Neanderthals painted caves, 90 percent of them would say no,” says study coauthor Alistair Pike, an archaeologist at the University of Southampton.
https://www.newscientist.com/article...t-in-the-world
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-02357-8
Symbolic use of marine shells and mineral pigments by Iberian Neandertals 115,000 years ago | Science Advances
D. L. Hoffman reports “Symbolic use of marine shells and mineral pigments by Iberian Neandertals 115,000 years ago.”


this pushes thinking Neanderthal as "modern man" back even further than most like too imagine.

But the evidence has been piled up already before this with the info discovered about
Neanderthals traveling in boats, musical instruments and burial practices, and sex and off spring with "real humans", DNA and more.






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