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the evolution thread made me think folks might be interested in some audio clips from a couple of books.

1st
13 things that don't make sense.
The Most Baffling Scientific Mysteries of Our Time
Spanning disciplines from biology to cosmology, chemistry to psychology to physics, Michael Brooks thrillingly captures the excitement of scientific discovery.Science’s best-kept secret is this: even today, there are experimental results that the most brilliant scientists cannot explain.

When we look to the "anomalies" that science can’t explain, we often discover where science is about to go. Here are a few of the anomalies that Michael Brooks investigates in 13 Things That Don’t Make Sense:

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•Gases have been detected on Mars that could only have come from carbon-based life forms
•Cold fusion, theoretically impossible and discredited in the 1980s, seems to work in some modern laboratory experiments
•It’s quite likely we have nothing close to free will
•Life and non-life may exist along a continuum, which may pave the way for us to create life in the near future
•Sexual reproduction doesn’t line up with evolutionary theory and, moreover, there’s no good scientific explanation for why we must die

Science starts to get interesting when things don’t make sense.
Science’s best-kept secret is this: even today, there are experimental results and reliable data that the most brilliant scientists can neither explain nor dismiss.
In the past, similar “anomalies” have revolutionized our world. If history is any precedent, we should look to today’s inexplicable results to forecast the future of science. Michael Brooks heads to the scientific frontier to confront thirteen modern-day anomalies and what they might reveal about tomorrow’s breakthroughs.
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part of the prolog

about 12 mins
http://mynetbox.info/audio/13-things-no-sense.mp3
Some might notice that even after his own warnings he assumes info.

Forbidden Archeology
[I]Over the centuries, researchers have found bones and artifacts proving that humans like us have existed for millions of years. Mainstream science, however, has supppressed these facts. Prejudices based on current scientific theory act as a "knowledge filter," giving us a picture of prehistory that is largely incorrect.[/I]amazon

ur ... somewhere near the end
http://mynetbox.info/audio/Laetoli-Footprints-3mil.mp3


neither books are Creationist or ID far from it.

just FYI
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•Sexual reproduction doesn’t line up with evolutionary theory and, moreover, there’s no good scientific explanation for why we must die


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This is one reason I object to the theory of evolution being taught as fact. It leaves no room for error. When something turns up that can't be explained the ego's of science will either bend the evidence to fit the mold or sweep it under the carpet all together rathr than admit they may have got it wrong. As the audio points out science has been wrong in the past and will be again. It's the greatest scholars of the day that put up the biggest road blocks to advance the truth.
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This is one reason I object to the theory of evolution being taught as fact. It leaves no room for error. When something turns up that can't be explained the ego's of science will either bend the evidence to fit the mold or sweep it under the carpet all together rathr than admit they may have got it wrong. As the audio points out science has been wrong in the past and will be again. It's the greatest scholars of the day that put up the biggest road blocks to advance the truth.

I realized science didn't have all the answers when I had my kids 4 and 6 years apart.
Each time the great and awful pediatric associations came down with an indisputable text of advisories. They did a complete turn around three times !!
The only thing we know for sure is that science is evolving.
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•Sexual reproduction doesn’t line up with evolutionary theory and, moreover, there’s no good scientific explanation for why we must die


explain that
As far as death goes, the question arises as scientist have found that we can point to several creatures that are extremely long lived and can manipulate gene switches and nutrient intake that seem to allow for near immortality. Why would "evolution" chose to program death into the equation?

Below is a link to the 1st part of the chapter on sex.
basically sex makes no sense to have arisen and proliferated when self replication was 1st and is better. There's no evolutionary idea that accounts for it.

http://mynetbox.info/audio/13-Things-no-sense-sex.mp3
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As far as death goes, the question arises as scientist have found that we can point to several creatures that are extremely long lived and can manipulate gene switches and nutrient intake that seem to allow for near immortality. Why would "evolution" chose to program death into the equation?

Below is a link to the 1st part of the chapter on sex.
basically sex makes no sense to have arisen and proliferated when self replication was 1st and is better. There's no evolutionary idea that accounts for it.

http://mynetbox.info/audio/13-Things-no-sense-sex.mp3
OK now that I think about it yes self replication seems much more efficient.
I wish you could find a link on the creatures that switch to beat death longer.
This is an interesting thread, thanks
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I wish you could find a link on the creatures that switch to beat death longer.
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I meant to write that Scientist have found genetic switches in that THEY can alter to make worms and fruit flys and human cell cultures live 1000 to 50% longer respectively.

Interesting books.

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I meant to write that Scientist have found genetic switches in that THEY can alter to make worms and fruit flys and human cell cultures live 1000 to 50% longer respectively.

Interesting books.

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well I hope you have time to bump this in a month or so because I will be moving and deciding on an IP. and set up my desk top again.
At present I use a tiny mini notebook and can't open many pages at one time.
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I had to stop after the first one:

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•Gases have been detected on Mars that could only have come from carbon-based life forms
Sorry, but this is strictly hypothetical and not proven.

When I read about a book, article, blog or other media venue regarding science and the first one off the bat is false, I usually set it down and do not bother proceeding.
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Sorry, but this is strictly hypothetical and not proven.

When I read about a book, article, blog or other media venue regarding science and the first one off the bat is false, I usually set it down and do not bother proceeding.
you never should have picked up that 1952 science book then
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