Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Discussion > Science, Inventions & Space
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Science, Inventions & Space Discuss Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle at the General Discussion; Considering the laudable goal of hybrid cars, one would think that when owners of gas-electric vehicles were ready to replace ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2012, 08:48 PM
foundit66's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,088
Thanks: 5,331
Thanked 8,552 Times in 4,854 Posts
Post Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Considering the laudable goal of hybrid cars, one would think that when owners of gas-electric vehicles were ready to replace their car, most would do so with a new hybrid. However, that just isn’t the case.

According to a new study by R.L. Polk via Automotive News, just one-third of U.S. hybrid owners replaced their hybrids with a new hybrid when they purchased a new vehicle in 2011.

The Toyota Prius seems to be the most likely to bring its owner back to a hybrid of some sort, as dis-including that model from the study dropped the return rate to a dismal 22 percent. Those numbers are likely quite surprising, especially considering the propensity for gas prices to rise rather than fall, but they are a reality automakers have to consider when developing their next generation of vehicles.

While those weak figures may seem to make a case for not offering hybrids, the same study did show that hybrids have excelled at attracting buyers to brands that they previously did not consider. Toyota, for example, may sell a Prius to a former domestic vehicle owner. When that owner decides to swap out the Prius, it will likely be for a new Toyota, even though it appears unlikely it will be a second Prius.

One possible explanation for the abandoning of hybrid technology from past owners could be the newly available gas-powered vehicles that are offering fuel economy that is in many cases not terribly far off from the more expensive hybrid counterparts.
Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

I don't have any stats to compare it to but I would think that it seems low.
Kind of incomplete without a commentary from the hybrid owners on the reasoning for their choice...
__________________
"Try to become not a man of success, but try rather to become a man of value."
Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to foundit66 For This Useful Post:
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2012, 09:27 PM
faithful_servant's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Beautiful conservative Central Oregon
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,314
Thanks: 5,009
Thanked 7,026 Times in 4,863 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

I don't have any stats to compare it to but I would think that it seems low.
Kind of incomplete without a commentary from the hybrid owners on the reasoning for their choice...
Another example of crappy reporting/research. Basic questions that should have been asked:
How does this number compare with how other types of cars are replaced?
What's the reasoning given for not replacing with a hybrid?
How many people are switching from a regualr car to a hybrid?

Why is it that I can figure out that these questions need to be asked, but professional journalists and researchers somehow miss them?????
__________________
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to faithful_servant For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Conservative Sage
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 5,818
Thanks: 1,908
Thanked 2,028 Times in 1,451 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to AZRWinger
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
Another example of crappy reporting/research. Basic questions that should have been asked:
How does this number compare with how other types of cars are replaced?
What's the reasoning given for not replacing with a hybrid?
How many people are switching from a regualr car to a hybrid?

Why is it that I can figure out that these questions need to be asked, but professional journalists and researchers somehow miss them?????
It is easy to understand why the so-called journalists do not ask these obvious questions, the answers would not serve their agenda. The "problem" is that not enough people are choosing to purchase hybrid cars so the Democrat solution is to limit their choices to the correct options as determined by their betters in government.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2012, 10:23 PM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: in the natural state
Posts: 41,100
Thanks: 30,641
Thanked 16,971 Times in 11,514 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
Another example of crappy reporting/research. Basic questions that should have been asked:
How does this number compare with how other types of cars are replaced?
What's the reasoning given for not replacing with a hybrid?
How many people are switching from a regualr car to a hybrid?

Why is it that I can figure out that these questions need to be asked, but professional journalists and researchers somehow miss them?????
Over the years I've noticed you seem to kind of hate alternative energy.
Did a relative of yours get run over by a hybrid? Or get slashed by a windmill? Just wondering why the total angst.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-10-2012, 10:53 PM
Mikeyy's Avatar
World Traveler
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: What day is it?
Posts: 34,581
Thanks: 9,956
Thanked 11,102 Times in 7,758 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

It's my view that people like to change models sometimes. There are not that many hybrids to choose from at this point. So you might opt out and turn around in a couple of years and opt back in. I wouldn't mind driving a hybrid. I would like it if I didn't need to drive at all.
__________________
Truth, Justice and the American way
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2012, 09:19 AM
faithful_servant's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Beautiful conservative Central Oregon
Gender: Male
Posts: 17,314
Thanks: 5,009
Thanked 7,026 Times in 4,863 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltwn View Post
Over the years I've noticed you seem to kind of hate alternative energy.
Did a relative of yours get run over by a hybrid? Or get slashed by a windmill? Just wondering why the total angst.
I don't hate alternative energy and my post has nothing to do with laternative energy whatsoever. It's about the piss-poor excuse for reporting that this article is such blatant example of.


For the record, most forms of alternative energy are not viable and never will be viable because the physics and economics simply don't work. They are fringe concepts designed to suck tax dollars and nothing else. I dislike most of them because they simply do not accomplish what they are intended to do. So because I don't like stupid ideas, I get accused of hating alternative energy. Show us one that will actually do what it's promised to do and do it economically. Show us an alternative that's better than petroleum based fuel that won't drive up energy costs. Wind is an absolute failure (undependable, low life-span on equipment, environmentally destructive) solar has the small problem of physics in it's way (the amount of energy that hits the ground and is recoverable falls FAR short of anything that would actually be viable) and those are the two best propositions out there.
__________________
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2012, 09:40 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: in the natural state
Posts: 41,100
Thanks: 30,641
Thanked 16,971 Times in 11,514 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
I don't hate alternative energy and my post has nothing to do with laternative energy whatsoever. It's about the piss-poor excuse for reporting that this article is such blatant example of.


For the record, most forms of alternative energy are not viable and never will be viable because the physics and economics simply don't work. They are fringe concepts designed to suck tax dollars and nothing else. I dislike most of them because they simply do not accomplish what they are intended to do. So because I don't like stupid ideas, I get accused of hating alternative energy. Show us one that will actually do what it's promised to do and do it economically. Show us an alternative that's better than petroleum based fuel that won't drive up energy costs. Wind is an absolute failure (undependable, low life-span on equipment, environmentally destructive) solar has the small problem of physics in it's way (the amount of energy that hits the ground and is recoverable falls FAR short of anything that would actually be viable) and those are the two best propositions out there.
Well I'm coming to you now from a plug in and a solar panel.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2012, 09:42 AM
rivrrat's Avatar
Queen of Awesomeness
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Charlottesville
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,057
Thanks: 2,858
Thanked 8,885 Times in 5,032 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

I don't have any stats to compare it to but I would think that it seems low.
Kind of incomplete without a commentary from the hybrid owners on the reasoning for their choice...
Two-thirds probably figured out that the really high cost just wasn't worth it.
__________________


To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller, is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbors. ~ John Stuart Mill

Gypsy Soul Memories
Scuba Diver Life
Success Freaks
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2012, 11:53 AM
Idealogically Promiscuous's Avatar
It's Obama's Fault
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Francisco, Ca
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,054
Thanks: 2,980
Thanked 4,776 Times in 2,789 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

Quote:
Originally Posted by foundit66 View Post
Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

I don't have any stats to compare it to but I would think that it seems low.
Kind of incomplete without a commentary from the hybrid owners on the reasoning for their choice...
I only know one person who had a hybrid and they didn't replace it with a new hybrid because they said the cost of repairs to it was just not worth it. I, myself, never wanted a hybrid because they have too many points of failure for my comfort. Maintenance on them has to suck balls.
__________________
The voice in your head that says "you can't do this" is a LIAR!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2012, 03:23 PM
Callysta's Avatar
Poiema
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: working...
Gender: Female
Posts: 319
Thanks: 226
Thanked 174 Times in 112 Posts
Default Re: Only one in three hybrid owners stick with technology when replacing vehicle

yeah it's the high costs. The savings in gas really doesn't cut it.
__________________
Be the change you want to see in the world.

-Mahatma Gandhi
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
hybrid, one, only, owners, replacing, stick, technology, three, vehicle, when, with

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0