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Old 07-17-2009, 12:29 AM
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Lev 18:22 says nothing about being condemned to Hell for homosexuality. It does say that it is an abomination, but there's nothing about Hell in this entire book. So could you please explain how you came to this interpretation..??
What does 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states regarding adulterers,sodomites,etc?Open it and read it please.
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Jesus Christ!
never said a word about homosexuality

Romans3:23 says -
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Every sin is a sin. We can do nothing about it. We are born into the sin of Adam. Jesus died so we could be saved.
Or if you'd rather hear it from Plato- a door between heaven and earth had to be fashioned.
Whether it is Biblical or philosophical, we all have a redeemer.
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Jesus Christ !
did say stuff about marriage and divorce
He also hung out in bars instead of with the hoity toity.
Paid more attention to children and the homeless than the rich.
my kinda guy

St.Paul,Christ's Apostle,placed law in Romans 1:26-32 regarding sodomites.
St. Paul was a mere man. You brought up the religon. And Faith works well enough here, as saltwn has displayed above this line.... And let me take the time to say
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What does 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states regarding adulterers,sodomites,etc?
That they get maximum exposure on prime time Thursday?...
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What does 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states regarding adulterers,sodomites,etc?Open it and read it please.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

The highlighted word describes YOU, SH.

Here's a little about the Kingdom of God:

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28 “But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go, work today in my vineyard.’ 29 He answered and said, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he regretted it and went. 30 Then he came to the second and said likewise. And he answered and said, ‘I go, sir,’ but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did the will of his father?”
They said to Him, “The first.”
Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you. 32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.
You'd be the 2nd son, you talk as though you are a Christian, yet you forget that you are to "love your neighbor as yourself".

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Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15 and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”
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But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable. 11 And He said to them, “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, 12 so that


‘ Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
And their sins be forgiven them.’”
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And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”
34 Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”
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Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
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1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
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14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let your good be spoken of as evil; 17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 For he who serves Christ in these things[e]is acceptable to God and approved by men.
19 Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense. 21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. 22 Do you have faith?[g] Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.

The Kingdom of God is described in current, earthly terms, not future, heavenly ones. The Kingdom is here on Earth, not a description of Heaven. When the Bible speaks of poeple not inheriting the Kingdom, it's talking about not living in the best purposes and plans of God for thier lives. Also, notice that the only qualification for entry into the Kingdom is being born again. No mention of living pure and holy, just born again.
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St.Paul,Christ's Apostle,placed law in Romans 1:26-32 regarding sodomites.
Well I'm here to proclaim the good news!
The law is dead. You're free. Whatever sins you have done are forgiven if you ask earnestly in Jesus' name.
Keep reading Paul and get the whole story. He wrote and sent update letters to several specific churches. He advised them on their individual problems and praised them on what they had accomplished One thing he always did- He was in constant prayer for them as some churches were for him.
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the phelps family brand of Christianity give all Christains a bad name.
When Christians stand up to the 'Phelpsian' mentality, even somebody like me can recognize the difference between a "phelps brand" knock-off / fake Christian ...
... and REAL Christians.
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When Christians stand up to the 'Phelpsian' mentality, even somebody like me can recognize the difference between a "phelps brand" knock-off / fake Christian ...
... and REAL Christians.
It would be nice if all thought as you do and I agree you can know where there is faith, and religion by the conversation and manners to the most important if they see you as an equal, caring.
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When Christians stand up to the 'Phelpsian' mentality, even somebody like me can recognize the difference between a "phelps brand" knock-off / fake Christian ...
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Thus the need for LIBERALISM, Global Warming, Gay Rights, Govt Healthcare, Govt Bailouts and the Black Sheep worship, that Liberals suffer from????
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um, er, ah, well, ah ...

WHAT?!

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