Germany moves to ban Scientology

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Germany's top security officials said Friday they consider the goals of the Church of Scientology to be in conflict with the principles of the nation's constitution and will seek to ban the organization.


The interior ministers of the nation's 16 states plan to give the nation's domestic intelligence agency the task of preparing the necessary information to ban the organization, which has been under observation for a decade on allegations that it "threatens the peaceful democratic order" of the country.

The ministers, as well as federal Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, "consider Scientology to be an organization that is not compatible with the constitution," said Berlin Interior Minister Ehrhart Koerting, who presided over the officials' two-day conference.

Sabine Weber, president of the Church of Scientology in Berlin, said she views the renewed attempt to ban the organization as a reaction to increasing acceptance of Scientologists in several European countries.

"It is very, very clear that the true picture of what Scientology is about is pushing its way through," Weber said. "The interior ministers are clearly reacting to that."

The Scientologists have long battled to end the surveillance, saying it is an abuse of their right to freedom of religion. They point to several lower court rulings in favor of their right to practice in Germany as a religious organization.

The U.S. State Department regularly criticizes Germany in its annual Human Rights Report for the monitoring practice.

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I find this story disturbing and so should we all..

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I'm so used to having my rights limited in THIS country, I can't be all that concerned about another country.

Sad, but true.

Yah right, as if the US does not monitor it's own people.

True enough but the "BANNING" of a religion is an "interesting" twist.Some of us do care what happens in other nations and some of us do not.I'm not a Scientologist but I find the banning of a religion troublesome even if it's in another nation.

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Germany's top security officials said Friday they consider the goals of the Church of Scientology to be in conflict with the principles of the nation's constitution and will seek to ban the organization.

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Right, our government isn't in the business of banning. They like all kinds of torture. Reduction of rights, in-equal legal treatment, active discrimination, profiling, and that's just the gays. Can't imagine what they'd do to a group they didn't 'tolerate'. Banning is bad for the coffers... *shrug*

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And it sets the stage for revolt!..People of faith everywhere should be concerned with the banning of a religious group.

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One may be concerned, but in particularly to Christians band or no band we simply do what we know we should do.....keep on preaching the gospel. Persecution have never stopped the Church from doing what Jesus has commissioned it to do, in fact through persecution the gospel spread even more than it would if Christians were not persecuted....this is what we should be more concern about. As Jesus said of Him self, "my food is to preach the gospel." He was not concern about His own safety.

While Christians should pray that the gospel would have free course, the Bible also said that in this world we will be persecuted. Some times, and more often than not, a lack of persecution can cause complacency among Christians, that we become comfortable in this world and get detoured from what we should be doing into things such as politics, forgetting that Christians are not of this world as Jesus was not.

Ever wonder why in the book of Revelation Jesus had to say to some of those in His Church, come out from among her less you share in her sins and partake of her plague? The political system was and will be rife with sin, and one cannot be in it and not get tainted. You don't tell someone that is already out side to come out side...you naturally tell someone that is inside to come out side. God has called His people out of this world, but after we have been called out, some have walked right back into the world.

And yet no one has come to your house and frogmarched you out because of any of the America-bashing you just proclaimed...

Just can't find yourself to get away from that sweet taste of freedom, eh?...

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Band..what band?

Fine..I will be watching your posts closely for the "opportunity" to remind you of what you stated in this post.The first time you complain of any religious persecution it will be interesting to refer once again to your post..

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The starches that turn into sugars from a carrot aren't bad when you're not accustomed to getting rock candy like everyone else. You just know you aren't getting rock candy. You really don't know how sweet it tastes.

While it's true there are rights that some possess (freedom of speech), it's irresponsible to overlook the fact that we do not provide equality in rights. It's not America bashing to point out the shortcomings despite the opinion of some blinded by nationalism. It's that blind nationalism that leads to the collapse of great empires. If they had been mindful of the problems surrounding them and attempted to solve them they would have survived into modern day.

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