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By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS, Associated Press Writer

TULSA, Okla. - Richard Roberts told students at Oral Roberts University Wednesday that he did not want to resign as president of the scandal-plagued evangelical school, but he did so because God insisted.

God told him on Thanksgiving that he should resign the next day, Roberts told students in the university's chapel.

"Every ounce of my flesh said 'no'" to the idea, Roberts said, but he prayed over the decision with his wife and his father, Oral Roberts, and decided to step down.

Roberts said he wanted to "strike out" against the people who were persecuting him, and considered countersuing, but "the Lord said, 'don't do that,'" he said.

After submitting his resignation, he said, for "first time in 60 days peace came into my heart."

Roberts spoke only for a few minutes and was applauded and cheered by students. He wiped away tears with a white handkerchief and his hands.

"This has nearly destroyed my family, and it's nearly destroyed ORU," Roberts said.

A lawsuit accuses Roberts of lavish spending at a time when the university faced more than $50 million in debt, including taking shopping sprees, buying a stable of horses and paying for a daughter to travel to the Bahamas aboard the university jet.

Roberts has previously said that God told him to deny the allegations. The week the lawsuit was filed, Richard Roberts said that God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."

On Wednesday, Roberts said God told him he would "do something supernatural for the university," if he stepped down from the job he held at the 5,700-student school since 1993


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By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS, Associated Press Writer

TULSA, Okla. - Richard Roberts told students at Oral Roberts University Wednesday that he did not want to resign as president of the scandal-plagued evangelical school, but he did so because God insisted.

God told him on Thanksgiving that he should resign the next day, Roberts told students in the university's chapel.

"Every ounce of my flesh said 'no'" to the idea, Roberts said, but he prayed over the decision with his wife and his father, Oral Roberts, and decided to step down.

Roberts said he wanted to "strike out" against the people who were persecuting him, and considered countersuing, but "the Lord said, 'don't do that,'" he said.

After submitting his resignation, he said, for "first time in 60 days peace came into my heart."

Roberts spoke only for a few minutes and was applauded and cheered by students. He wiped away tears with a white handkerchief and his hands.

"This has nearly destroyed my family, and it's nearly destroyed ORU," Roberts said.

A lawsuit accuses Roberts of lavish spending at a time when the university faced more than $50 million in debt, including taking shopping sprees, buying a stable of horses and paying for a daughter to travel to the Bahamas aboard the university jet.

Roberts has previously said that God told him to deny the allegations. The week the lawsuit was filed, Richard Roberts said that God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."

On Wednesday, Roberts said God told him he would "do something supernatural for the university," if he stepped down from the job he held at the 5,700-student school since 1993


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How come God wasn't talking to Roberts before his remodeling and leadership failures?
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A prime example of a moron...

Unfortunately, this will be held up as a representation of the whole religious community and perceptions that all are equally morons will be reinforced...
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By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS, Associated Press Writer

TULSA, Okla. - Richard Roberts told students at Oral Roberts University Wednesday that he did not want to resign as president of the scandal-plagued evangelical school, but he did so because God insisted.

God told him on Thanksgiving that he should resign the next day, Roberts told students in the university's chapel.







God talks to Roberts and then Roberts talks to us..

At first I thought this was the 700 Club guy.
...Oral Roberts?
Yeah he's a crock...
And so is his kid
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By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS, Associated Press Writer

TULSA, Okla. - Richard Roberts told students at Oral Roberts University Wednesday that he did not want to resign as president of the scandal-plagued evangelical school, but he did so because God insisted.

God told him on Thanksgiving that he should resign the next day, Roberts told students in the university's chapel.

"Every ounce of my flesh said 'no'" to the idea, Roberts said, but he prayed over the decision with his wife and his father, Oral Roberts, and decided to step down.

Roberts said he wanted to "strike out" against the people who were persecuting him, and considered countersuing, but "the Lord said, 'don't do that,'" he said.

After submitting his resignation, he said, for "first time in 60 days peace came into my heart."

Roberts spoke only for a few minutes and was applauded and cheered by students. He wiped away tears with a white handkerchief and his hands.

"This has nearly destroyed my family, and it's nearly destroyed ORU," Roberts said.

A lawsuit accuses Roberts of lavish spending at a time when the university faced more than $50 million in debt, including taking shopping sprees, buying a stable of horses and paying for a daughter to travel to the Bahamas aboard the university jet.

Roberts has previously said that God told him to deny the allegations. The week the lawsuit was filed, Richard Roberts said that God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."

On Wednesday, Roberts said God told him he would "do something supernatural for the university," if he stepped down from the job he held at the 5,700-student school since 1993


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I have no opinion either way about what Roberts claimed that God told him to step down. I don't even know if that organization is really Christian from a Biblical position or not, because I don't have enough information about them. I don't pay much if any attention to religious programs on television even though I am a Christian. I don't need them to teach me God's word, and I have found many of them in the past to disempower their audience rather than empowering them. However, what I do know is that Christians should not be taking each other before the unjust in order to settle a matter or get justice. The scripture show that Christians, true Christians should and is capable of doing it themselves.

And if they don't know this, well it just proves my point.

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I have no opinion either way about what Roberts claimed that God told him to step down. I don't even know if that organization is really Christian from a Biblical position or not, because I don't have enough information about them. I don't pay much if any attention to religious programs on television even though I am a Christian. I don't need them to teach me God's word, and I have found many of them in the past to disempower their audience rather than empowering them. However, what I do know is that Christians should not be taking each other before the unjust in order to settle a matter or get justice. The scripture show that Christians, true Christians should and is capable of doing it themselves.
And if they don't know this, well it just proves my point.
Well..some of us DO have an "opinion" and we are free to express it. Many of us have been detecting a very condescending attitude on your part.I'm sure you are aware of this by now,you need to relax a little bit and remember this for it also applies to you.

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A prime example of a moron...

Unfortunately, this will be held up as a representation of the whole religious community and perceptions that all are equally morons will be reinforced...

Nah redd, I don't think society at large is nearly that stupid. Pretty much everyone with a social IQ above 60 or so will realize that this is a case of Christian derailure. You might get a retarded rabid lib(eretarian--lol--j/k!) going off on a rant, but I personally know many many Christians who simply go about living their faith considering that being enough said. They realize that they witness by example and not by being a know it all scripture quoter that any student of ancient aramaic could blow away anyway, anytime, anyhow.

My mother lives in a Christian retirement community and is VERY happy there. I couldn't be happier for her. I wouldn't want her to be anywhere else.

It's all subjective to interpretation. There are many Christians that I admire--my mother among them.
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Well..some of us DO have an "opinion" and we are free to express it. Many of us have been detecting a very condescending attitude on your part.I'm sure you are aware of this by now,you need to relax a little bit and remember this for it also applies to you.

Christians are not perfect but they are forgiven....


What's your point? I did not say that anyone should not say what they feel about this topic. All I am saying is that as far as I am concern I do not know enough about that organization or Mr. Roberts to come to any conclutions. What do you believe that I should have said, should I have foolishly and blindly join the band wagon in condenming someone whom I know nothing about?

My point was that even if what is said about him is true the scripture says that Christians (asuming that they are Christians) should not bring each other to court....they should be willing to be even defrauded. This is not saying that they should tolerated corruption in the Church, no, it simply mean that the guilty person should be put away from them, until they have repented or be put out of the Church if he or she refuses to change or admit wrong doing.

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Why use the name of God for your predicaments? The act is shameful and pathetic.
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