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Typical Leftist, can't enter into logical discussion so it's you lose, shut up.
number one it's not polite
number 1a- religion does not rule our government. That would be Iran.
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number one it's not polite
number 1a- religion does not rule our government. That would be Iran.
Your claim to being offended doesn’t abrogate the right to the free exercise of religion. Marxist Democrats offer up the polemic that any religious expression except by the false claims of piety by Democrat politicians is rule by religion. It's patently false but nonetheless used as justification for purging Christianity from the public square.
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For sure you don't want to mix politics and religion unless you want to lose this argument.
Don't you understand the premise? The Progressives do not want religion to have a hold on people. But they DO want to have that same power for themselves over the people. They feel that they are in competition with religion.
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Your claim to being offended doesn’t abrogate the right to the free exercise of religion. Marxist Democrats offer up the polemic that any religious expression except by the false claims of piety by Democrat politicians is rule by religion. It's patently false but nonetheless used as justification for purging Christianity from the public square.
what twisted logic ^^


we're not talking about any religious expression.
religions do not rule our government. God might, this is true, but organized religion can never guide our governing of people. For one thing there are too many and too many sects within each of the many religions on planet earth.
A similarity such as wide spread abhorrence for abortion across the majority of religions might show world wide disgust. But any specific religion is not used as a guideline. We must think for ourselves in the context of a representative democracy based on our constitution and rule of law, no matter the invocation of the Creator. That acknowledges acceptance that there is a Creator, but is a long way from promoting one religion over another and quite opposite of choosing one to write or interpret law.
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Don't you understand the premise? The Progressives do not want religion to have a hold on people. But they DO want to have that same power for themselves over the people. They feel that they are in competition with religion.
I disagree that is the intention but I can understand how you might think that.
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what twisted logic ^^


we're not talking about any religious expression.
religions do not rule our government. God might, this is true, but organized religion can never guide our governing of people. For one thing there are too many and too many sects within each of the many religions on planet earth.
A similarity such as wide spread abhorrence for abortion across the majority of religions might show world wide disgust. But any specific religion is not used as a guideline. We must think for ourselves in the context of a representative democracy based on our constitution and rule of law, no matter the invocation of the Creator. That acknowledges acceptance that there is a Creator, but is a long way from promoting one religion over another and quite opposite of choosing one to write or interpret law.
What you label as twisted logic is the bedrock principle that our unalienable rights come from the Creator, they are not playthings to be purchased by promises of stimulus checks. Joe Brain Damage calls it the "thing" even as he rules by executive decree from the DC military occupation zone.

As shown by the rabid attacks on President Trump for the offense of showing support for a church burned down by atheist Leftists the danger is not religion taking over government it's the conscription of religion into a political tool of the Left. The dogma of Orange Man bad rules over the Bible, Koran, Talmud, etc.
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What you label as twisted logic is the bedrock principle that our unalienable rights come from the Creator, they are not playthings to be purchased by promises of stimulus checks. Joe Brain Damage calls it the "thing" even as he rules by executive decree from the DC military occupation zone.

As shown by the rabid attacks on President Trump for the offense of showing support for a church burned down by atheist Leftists the danger is not religion taking over government it's the conscription of religion into a political tool of the Left. The dogma of Orange Man bad rules over the Bible, Koran, Talmud, etc.
The pastor of that very church took issue with that propaganda display
Using religion as a propaganda tool is one of the reasons we leave religion not God out of our government.
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The pastor of that very church took issue with that propaganda display
Using religion as a propaganda tool is one of the reasons we leave religion not God out of our government.
The pastor of the church Marxist BLM thugs set on fire did indeed play politics by venting his hatred for President Trump for showing his support for the free exercise of religion. The pastor's descent into a political operative siding with violent Leftists is another example of a useful idiot ignorant of history, Marxist Democrats pose as religious faithful until they achieve political power then no institution is allowed to compete with the all powerful Federal government they control.

The first amendment specifically references freedom of religion as a guaranteed right. As one time Constitutional law instructor Barack Obama stated the Constitution defines negative rights, what the Federal government may not do to you. There is nothing in the Constitution requiring religious beliefs to be purged from government.

On the other hand, the Declaration of Independence specifies our unalienable rights come from our Creator. The violent arsonists were trying to suppress religious celebration of the Creator so it makes no sense that the pastor would object to the government preventing them from doing so.
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