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As we go through this period of quarantine where our social interactions are limited by health considerations it's important to understand the difference between isolation and solitude. Isolation is being cut off from all interaction with others. But solitude is a time when we shut out the world giving us the opportunity to draw closer to God. Solitude is something we ought to make time for every day as an aid to prayer. An increased opportunity for solitude is a benefit of the quarantine restrictions.

For the secularist dedicated to denying God there is no solitude only isolation. It's a cost of choosing to reject God.
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As we go through this period of quarantine where our social interactions are limited by health considerations it's important to understand the difference between isolation and solitude. Isolation is being cut off from all interaction with others. But solitude is a time when we shut out the world giving us the opportunity to draw closer to God. Solitude is something we ought to make time for every day as an aid to prayer. An increased opportunity for solitude is a benefit of the quarantine restrictions.

For the secularist dedicated to denying God there is no solitude only isolation. It's a cost of choosing to reject God.
You highlighted something that you fail to see or consider. I treat those who choose a religion because it harms none and fills something inside of them with respect.

You have failed to do the same.

Besides your misuse of the word secularist, I understood what you were trying to say.

secularist
[ˈsekyələrəst]

NOUN
a person who advocates separation of the state from religious institutions.
"secularists wanted religious reform as the first step to a secular society"
ADJECTIVE
advocating or relating to separation of the state from religious institutions.
"secularist ideology" · "secularist campaigners"
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You highlighted something that you fail to see or consider. I treat those who choose a religion because it harms none and fills something inside of them with respect.

You have failed to do the same.

Besides your misuse of the word secularist, I understood what you were trying to say.

secularist
[ˈsekyələrəst]

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a person who advocates separation of the state from religious institutions.
"secularists wanted religious reform as the first step to a secular society"
ADJECTIVE
advocating or relating to separation of the state from religious institutions.
"secularist ideology" · "secularist campaigners"
There is no disrespect in pointing out a deficiency of those who reject God. False claims of respecting religious conviction in others while displaying intolerance for those of us with religious convictions is hypocrisy.

Even the secularists who piously proclaim they respect religious conviction support chasing it from the public square except when it can be perverted to support their political agenda. My comment dealt with a solitary activity for humans, nonetheless you felt obligated to reflexively attack as if it was a prescription for partisan politics.
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As we go through this period of quarantine where our social interactions are limited by health considerations it's important to understand the difference between isolation and solitude. Isolation is being cut off from all interaction with others. But solitude is a time when we shut out the world giving us the opportunity to draw closer to God. Solitude is something we ought to make time for every day as an aid to prayer. An increased opportunity for solitude is a benefit of the quarantine restrictions.

For the secularist dedicated to denying God there is no solitude only isolation. It's a cost of choosing to reject God.
everything you said was cool till you had to insult people.
not a very Christian attitude that.
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There is no disrespect in pointing out a deficiency of those who reject God. False claims of respecting religious conviction in others while displaying intolerance for those of us with religious convictions is hypocrisy.

Even the secularists who piously proclaim they respect religious conviction support chasing it from the public square except when it can be perverted to support their political agenda. My comment dealt with a solitary activity for humans, nonetheless you felt obligated to reflexively attack as if it was a prescription for partisan politics.
The belief that a persona cannot enjoy solitude without the prescence of God is false.

Where have I shown an intolerance or disrespect for someone else's religion (if it harms none)?

To request that all regions be treated the same in the separation from State does not mean it's disrespecting any religion, it is a matter of equality.

You say others are hypocrits, where in your own post you slather your hypocrisy on those who don't agree with you, but do nothing to disrespect your religion.

Your arrogance on this subject is sad. And the worst part is, you, as a person, don't even realize you've done it several times in one post.
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The belief that a persona cannot enjoy solitude without the prescence of God is false.

Where have I shown an intolerance or disrespect for someone else's religion (if it harms none)?

To request that all regions be treated the same in the separation from State does not mean it's disrespecting any religion, it is a matter of equality.

You say others are hypocrits, where in your own post you slather your hypocrisy on those who don't agree with you, but do nothing to disrespect your religion.

Your arrogance on this subject is sad. And the worst part is, you, as a person, don't even realize you've done it several times in one post.
Rejecting the presence of God turns solitude into isolation. Your insistence on bringing a flamethrower to the discussion illustrates the potency of this simple truth. You claim to respect religious conviction while treating people who practice it as lab rats.

The idea that the ongoing quarantine provides an enhanced opportunity for individuals to privately commune with God through prayer evokes an angry condemnation from secularists who claim to only want equal treatment, exclusion, of all religion from the public square. The classic secularist insists on an extra Constitutional separation of religion from government save the practice of atheism, exalted as somehow neutral. But you insist on going further with a display of condemnation and charges of hypocrisy at the idea of private prayer. Justice Scalia wrote that the goal of the anti religious judiciary is to reduce religious expression to muted speech within the confines of the sanctuary. You want to go further with condemnation of private prayer as no better than staring at blank walls.
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Rejecting the presence of God turns solitude into isolation. Your insistence on bringing a flamethrower to the discussion illustrates the potency of this simple truth. You claim to respect religious conviction while treating people who practice it as lab rats.

The idea that the ongoing quarantine provides an enhanced opportunity for individuals to privately commune with God through prayer evokes an angry condemnation from secularists who claim to only want equal treatment, exclusion, of all religion from the public square. The classic secularist insists on an extra Constitutional separation of religion from government save the practice of atheism, exalted as somehow neutral. But you insist on going further with a display of condemnation and charges of hypocrisy at the idea of private prayer. Justice Scalia wrote that the goal of the anti religious judiciary is to reduce religious expression to muted speech within the confines of the sanctuary. You want to go further with condemnation of private prayer as no better than staring at blank walls.
No, nothing validates your statement other than your own bias. Lab rats? I have no idea where you dredging that up, but apparently you are clueless of many of those who do not see things religiously as you do have no problem with your religion. The offense is found with the disrespect you've given for those other people's beliefs that do not ask, request or demand you to change your views or opinions.

If believing in God fulfils something for you, I'm fine with that. However, you have successfully disrespected others with your first post, and then play verbal games to defend it.

I'm not one who cares if the is a Christian display in public areas. I say Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it, and hold to traditions within my own family. But I also do not disrespect other people for religious, or lack there of, points of view. You do.

How sad for you that your tunnel vision provides for only one way to view other people's religions. And to clarify, I am not isolated from anyone, at any time, because no one is better than me, and nobody is lesser than me as a human.
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No, nothing validates your statement other than your own bias. Lab rats? I have no idea where you dredging that up, but apparently you are clueless of many of those who do not see things religiously as you do have no problem with your religion. The offense is found with the disrespect you've given for those other people's beliefs that do not ask, request or demand you to change your views or opinions.

If believing in God fulfils something for you, I'm fine with that. However, you have successfully disrespected others with your first post, and then play verbal games to defend it.

I'm not one who cares if the is a Christian display in public areas. I say Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it, and hold to traditions within my own family. But I also do not disrespect other people for religious, or lack there of, points of view. You do.

How sad for you that your tunnel vision provides for only one way to view other people's religions. And to clarify, I am not isolated from anyone, at any time, because no one is better than me, and nobody is lesser than me as a human.
Why the violent condemnation of private prayer? This is so typical of secularists who claim they want only to separate church and state but who actually want to make the world safe for atheists by proscribing any religious expression including private prayer.
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Why the violent condemnation of private prayer? This is so typical of secularists who claim they want only to separate church and state but who actually want to make the world safe for atheists by proscribing any religious expression including private prayer.
Private prayer - you post it as it's own thread, in a public forum. And include an insult to those who do not think like you.

This is so typical of secularists? Dig deep, to bury what you yourself posted.

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