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Old 05-03-2019, 12:29 PM
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Christianity is an oft-vilified religion.
In reality, Christians are often the victims.

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During the last 25 years the "Religion of Peace" has just about eliminated Christianity in Northern Africa.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/gm...c-f9ab1f524f6e
https://www.newsweek.com/christian-p...se-ever-770462

They are succeeding in Europe as well, although not yet using genocide.
https://www.worthynews.com/news/chri...ecution/europe

We are next on the list. And the "Party of the People" here in the USA is aggressively, albeit naively, aiding and abetting the process. Perhaps they find it easier to say Allah Akbar" than "hell no, not here, not ever."
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We are next on the list. And the "Party of the People" here in the USA is aggressively, albeit naively, aiding and abetting the process. Perhaps they find it easier to say Allah Akbar" than "hell no, not here, not ever."

Stop with the White Supremacist propaganda.

Religious persecution occurs when two conditions exist.

1. The nation does not clearly establish freedom of religion, freedom from religion, and the strictest possible separation of church and state.

2. When those that commit hate crimes and those that spread propaganda that leads to hate crimes are not aggressively pursued by law enforcement and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

In the United States our Constitution establishes freedom of religion but we're only so-so when it comes to separation of Church and State and so-so when it comes to freedom from religion. We could do a lot better by eliminating the reference to "god" in our national motto and in the pledge of allegiance.

We're only so-so when it comes aggressively pursuing those that spread propaganda that fuels religious animosity and violence and we're only so-so when it comes to pursuing those that commit or are likely to commit religious hate crimes.

This thread is an example of propaganda that's fuels religious animosity against Muslims and we know that American Muslims are not making any attempt to eliminate Christianity in the United States. It isn't happening and is never likely to happen in the United States.

In the United States three out of four hate crimes motivated by religion animus are attacks against Jews (58.1%) or Muslims (18.7%). Jews and Muslims combined equal less than 3% of Americans (Jews 1.9%, Muslims 0.9%).

Religiously motivate hate crimes against all Christian denominations equals less than 10% of all hate crimes while Christians of all denominations equal 70.6% of the population.

Christians and Christianity are not and have never been threatened in the United State while the vast majority of hate crimes in America are being committed by (Christian) White Supremacists. You know, the ones chanting "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville and they're being encouraged by a person of the highest authority in our government that claims there are good people among them.
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Stop with the White Supremacist propaganda.

Religious persecution occurs when two conditions exist.

1. The nation does not clearly establish freedom of religion, freedom from religion, and the strictest possible separation of church and state.

2. When those that commit hate crimes and those that spread propaganda that leads to hate crimes are not aggressively pursued by law enforcement and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

In the United States our Constitution establishes freedom of religion but we're only so-so when it comes to separation of Church and State and so-so when it comes to freedom from religion. We could do a lot better by eliminating the reference to "god" in our national motto and in the pledge of allegiance.

We're only so-so when it comes aggressively pursuing those that spread propaganda that fuels religious animosity and violence and we're only so-so when it comes to pursuing those that commit or are likely to commit religious hate crimes.

This thread is an example of propaganda that's fuels religious animosity against Muslims and we know that American Muslims are not making any attempt to eliminate Christianity in the United States. It isn't happening and is never likely to happen in the United States.

In the United States three out of four hate crimes motivated by religion animus are attacks against Jews (58.1%) or Muslims (18.7%). Jews and Muslims combined equal less than 3% of Americans (Jews 1.9%, Muslims 0.9%).

Religiously motivate hate crimes against all Christian denominations equals less than 10% of all hate crimes while Christians of all denominations equal 70.6% of the population.

Christians and Christianity are not and have never been threatened in the United State while the vast majority of hate crimes in America are being committed by (Christian) White Supremacists. You know, the ones chanting "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville and they're being encouraged by a person of the highest authority in our government that claims there are good people among them.
Facts don't change because YOU don't want to believe them.

This is NOT about Whites. Or supremacy. North African Christians are Negro and Arab.
Are you really that dumb or do you presume I am?
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Stop with the White Supremacist propaganda.


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Translated by Manitou, the above is.

You post that as if the Muslims will study the Constitution fairly to make sure religious freedom can be fairly practised. To 99.93% of them, it is Sharia and the Koran, or blood spurting from the necks of infidels. If you think I exaggerate my numbers, you are welcome to your thought.
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Facts don't change because YOU don't want to believe them.

This is NOT about Whites. Or supremacy. North African Christians are Negro and Arab.
Are you really that dumb or do you presume I am?
This thread stopped talking about North African Christians when it falsely claimed that the same threat exists in the United States. That threat doesn't exist here and we have another threat to our religious freedom to be concerned about.

In the United States hate crimes, including hate crimes based upon religious animus, are overwhelmingly being committed by White (WASP) Supremacists that have always represented the greatest terrorist threat in the United States.

Why would we, in the United States, be worried about Muslims that represent less than 1% of Americans when a study found that 57% of those claiming to be Republicans want to dismantle the US Constitution removing the protections for religious freedom that also prevent the establishment of religion by our government so that they can declare Christianity to be our national religion? Republicans may be a small minority of all Americans, at less than 25%, but even then that study shows that about 13% of Americans willing to impose a tyrannical religious theocracy upon the rest of the American people.

A known 13% threat against our religious freedom is a serious concern while there's no evidence whatsoever that less than 1% of Americans that are Muslims represent any threat to religious freedom.
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Translated by Manitou, the above is.

You post that as if the Muslims will study the Constitution fairly to make sure religious freedom can be fairly practised. To 99.93% of them, it is Sharia and the Koran, or blood spurting from the necks of infidels. If you think I exaggerate my numbers, you are welcome to your thought.
Please provide a source for the claim that 99.93% of Muslims anywhere embrace Sharia law. I'll provide a link to a Pew Research Study that should be read before making absurd statements. From that Pew study I'll also provide a little information of the Muslim beliefs in Sharia.

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According to the survey findings, most Muslims believe sharia is the revealed word of God rather than a body of law developed by men based on the word of God.
https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...-about-sharia/

Those beliefs aren't generally held in the United States where many of the Muslims are refugees from the tyranny of extremist Islamic beliefs.

In the United States the Muslims overwhelmingly believe in our Constitutional protections of freedom of religion and expression.

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13. Do American Muslim leaders support freedom of expression and religious liberty?

Yes. Many American Muslim leaders, educational institutions, and advocacy groups have repeatedly spoken out for freedom of expression and are actively involved in promoting religious liberty for all people both in the United States and abroad.

A recent statement signed by some 200 American and Canadian Muslim leaders, unconditionally condemned “any intimidation or threats of violence directed against any individual or group exercising the rights of freedom of religion and speech; even when that speech may be perceived as hurtful or reprehensible.”
https://interfaithalliance.org/americanmuslimfaq/
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Please provide a source for the claim that 99.93% of Muslims anywhere embrace Sharia law.
I must assume you are not familiar with hyperbole. I will say it again, differently.

"100 percent of Muslims believe only the Koran and Sharia, or blood gushing from the necks of infidels."
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Facts don't change because YOU don't want to believe them.

This is NOT about Whites. Or supremacy. North African Christians are Negro and Arab.
Are you really that dumb or do you presume I am?
Franc, I've asked that same question, both of Shiva and myself.

The best answer I can come up with is, both.
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