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Sometimes, in the New Testament, Jesus refers to Himself of the "Son of God."

Other times, He says, the "Son of Man."

It is surely tempting to see the former as a more profound statement.

But actually, quite the opposite is true.

After all, all Christians (at least, all Christian males) may correctly refer to themselves as sons of God.

But the term, "Son of Man," was an obvious allusion to the prophecy in Daniel 7, in which "one like a son of man" is awarded eternal kingship.

So I would view the term, "Son of Man," as the more profound of the two.

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Sometimes, in the New Testament, Jesus refers to Himself of the "Son of God."

Other times, He says, the "Son of Man."

It is surely tempting to see the former as a more profound statement.

But actually, quite the opposite is true.

After all, all Christians (at least, all Christian males) may correctly refer to themselves as sons of God.

But the term, "Son of Man," was an obvious allusion to the prophecy in Daniel 7, in which "one like a son of man" is awarded eternal kingship.

So I would view the term, "Son of Man," as the more profound of the two.

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Jesus was God made flesh so just as the trinity are inseparable Jesus is the son of God and Man.
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Sometimes, in the New Testament, Jesus refers to Himself of the "Son of God."

Other times, He says, the "Son of Man."

It is surely tempting to see the former as a more profound statement.

But actually, quite the opposite is true.

After all, all Christians (at least, all Christian males) may correctly refer to themselves as sons of God.

But the term, "Son of Man," was an obvious allusion to the prophecy in Daniel 7, in which "one like a son of man" is awarded eternal kingship.

So I would view the term, "Son of Man," as the more profound of the two.

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He took human form. Yes you have brought up an interesting point. I will forward this to a friend of mine who loves these kinds of questions. I am curious what he will come up with.
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The "Son of Man" brings up the Old Testament story about the sons of God and the daughters of men.


Genesis 6 KJV--


And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I don't understand that either.
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Sometimes, in the New Testament, Jesus refers to Himself of the "Son of God."

Other times, He says, the "Son of Man."

It is surely tempting to see the former as a more profound statement.

But actually, quite the opposite is true.

After all, all Christians (at least, all Christian males) may correctly refer to themselves as sons of God.

But the term, "Son of Man," was an obvious allusion to the prophecy in Daniel 7, in which "one like a son of man" is awarded eternal kingship.

So I would view the term, "Son of Man," as the more profound of the two.

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found this thread again.
here is my son in law's answer. he was a philosophy major and is an apologist, and studies scripture a lot.

I agree. Israel as a nation and the king of Israel are called God's son. Jesus makes the Daniel 7 reference explicit in Matt. 26:64, and in addition to the titles given in that passage, the Son of Man is said to come "on the clouds". This phrase, and similar ones like riding the clouds or riding through the heavens, are only ever said of God, except in Daniel 7. When Jesus said he would come on the clouds in Matthew, there is no mistaking that He was claiming to be Yahweh.
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The "Son of Man" brings up the Old Testament story about the sons of God and the daughters of men.


Genesis 6 KJV--


And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I don't understand that either.


Like some other of the early stories about the beginning in Genesis, we are to wonder about the meaning.
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