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There are, of course, four basic methods of interpretation (and an almost infinite variety of specific interpretations under each), as regarding the Book of Revelation: the poetic method (which is typically favored by more liberal theologians); the preterist method; the continuous historical (or historicist) method (which was favored by the Reformers); and the futurist method (which is favored by most televangelists).

I tend more toward the preterist method—although I am not altogether sure that I could explain the "Battle of Armageddon"—unless the reference is simply to the destruction of Jerusalem (including the Temple), around AD 70.

Thoughts?
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If I knew the definition of each of those methods I could share my thoughts, but I have no idea what they entail. I've had a long, physically active day and don't feel like looking all of that up.
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There are, of course, four basic methods of interpretation (and an almost infinite variety of specific interpretations under each), as regarding the Book of Revelation: the poetic method (which is typically favored by more liberal theologians); the preterist method; the continuous historical (or historicist) method (which was favored by the Reformers); and the futurist method (which is favored by most televangelists).

I tend more toward the preterist method—although I am not altogether sure that I could explain the "Battle of Armageddon"—unless the reference is simply to the destruction of Jerusalem (including the Temple), around AD 70.

Thoughts?

Well I tend to see it as St. John, understandI]ng the word as our Lord, shared with him, Literary, not to be taken out of context.[/I]

And when read slowly unlike normal reading one w[Ill see the total meanI]ng[/I][/I]

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of each word to the meaning of each verse.

As in the "Letters to the Churches." Christ speaking, Saying I wish each of you were not sitting on the fence on earthly issues but instead were speaking out about the Glory to be had by picking up your cross and following my way.

Now of course one should have been doing the reading in the New Testament
prior to reading the last book, Revelations. So to understand these meanings.
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The poetic method (again, favored by more liberal theologians) holds that no actual, historical events are described in the Book of Revelation; rather, it is just a figurative way of describing the certain victory of the Forces of God over the Forces of Satan.

The preterist method (sometimes called the contemporary historical method) holds that the entire set of prophecies was fulfilled--even the Battle of Armageddon--before the end of the first century. (This may be sub-divided: There are partial preterists and full preterists. The full preterists hold that everything--even the Second Coming (or Parousia)--was fulfilled within the first century; no prophecy is yet to be fulfilled. The partial preterists hold that some biblical prophecy was fulfilled in the first century, but not all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

The continuous historical method (favored by the Reformers) holds that the Book of Revelation is a chronicle of the church's progression, from the first century until the Eschaton (or End Times).

The futurist method holds that the entire Book of Revelation (or "Apocalypse") centers upon the Eschaton (with the exception of the part about the seven churches of Asia).

These are the four basic methods of interpretation.
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Thanks for providing info on those four methods, pjohns.

I believe John was was using his gift of prophecy to describe specific future events in allegorical form. If that fits any of the categories you've mentioned, it might be closest to futurist.
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The poetic method (again, favored by more liberal theologians) holds that no actual, historical events are described in the Book of Revelation; rather, it is just a figurative way of describing the certain victory of the Forces of God over the Forces of Satan.

The preterist method (sometimes called the contemporary historical method) holds that the entire set of prophecies was fulfilled--even the Battle of Armageddon--before the end of the first century. (This may be sub-divided: There are partial preterists and full preterists. The full preterists hold that everything--even the Second Coming (or Parousia)--was fulfilled within the first century; no prophecy is yet to be fulfilled. The partial preterists hold that some biblical prophecy was fulfilled in the first century, but not all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

The continuous historical method (favored by the Reformers) holds that the Book of Revelation is a chronicle of the church's progression, from the first century until the Eschaton (or End Times).

The futurist method holds that the entire Book of Revelation (or "Apocalypse") centers upon the Eschaton (with the exception of the part about the seven churches of Asia).

These are the four basic methods of interpretation.
Isn't it also how you one feels as they read for lack of a better word.. ie;

Some readers are not saved or very into God.. When people into Jesus and the Trinity as a whole read the Bible there feeling are in-tune to our Lord..

And most of today's believers are told to read the Bible as literal a living word.
So is this covered by these terms... I would have to pick the futurist as it covers the concept..

Yet doesn't cover reading His word in the Literal... Do I make any sense pjohns?
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Isn't it also how you one feels as they read for lack of a better word.. ie;

Some readers are not saved or very into God.. When people into Jesus and the Trinity as a whole read the Bible there feeling are in-tune to our Lord..

And most of today's believers are told to read the Bible as literal a living word.
So is this covered by these terms... I would have to pick the futurist as it covers the concept..

Yet doesn't cover reading His word in the Literal... Do I make any sense pjohns?
Yes, you certainly do make sense, mlurp.

I tend more toward the preterist method—although I am not altogether sure that I could explain the "Battle of Armageddon"—unless the reference is simply to the destruction of Jerusalem (including the Temple), around AD 70.

Note: There are really two different "preterist" methods: There is full preterism (which holds that all of biblical prophecy was entirely fulfilled by the end of the first century); and there is partial preterism--a more widespread belief (that holds that some biblical prophecy was fulfilled by the end of the first century, but some still remains).

But I would certainly not be doctrinaire in this matter. (In fact, quite the opposite: I actively solicit the opinions of others, in the hope that I may learn something here.)
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Yes, you certainly do make sense, mlurp.

I tend more toward the preterist method—although I am not altogether sure that I could explain the "Battle of Armageddon"—unless the reference is simply to the destruction of Jerusalem (including the Temple), around AD 70.

Note: There are really two different "preterist" methods: There is full preterism (which holds that all of biblical prophecy was entirely fulfilled by the end of the first century); and there is partial preterism--a more widespread belief (that holds that some biblical prophecy was fulfilled by the end of the first century, but some still remains).

But I would certainly not be doctrinaire in this matter. (In fact, quite the opposite: I actively solicit the opinions of others, in the hope that I may learn something here.)
Well what ever course your siding with do realize that some of prophecy was fulfilled back then yet a few items remain to be fulfilled before the Tribulation can begin. <IMHO & most Theologian line of thought.>

I tend to not concern myself with titles as above to define what I learn and believe in from the Holy Bible.. As it is God, speaking..

Yet some how I am saying that only because it was taught to me when I was young.. From reading through the Bible several times I can't claim it as truth.

As there are contradictions and God isn't ever wrong.. Yet this is how I see things and other are free to believe how they see thing.

And that has to do with the Temple being rebuilt so what was written can happen.
And the two whom do prophecy on the streets of Jerusalem for 3 days and then are killed.

After the new Temple is rebuilt and the two whom offer prophecy are killed the Tribulation is started. # and 1/2 years of peace then all hell hits the fan for another 3 and 1/2 years....

This is what I remember as I have not gone back to this one book with Jesus blessing just for reading or hearing it being read.

But you have stroked the coals and I am going to start a study of Revelations and related Prophecy.

I do hope you have gain some insight pjohns
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