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Duterte enjoys tremendous support in war on drugs...

Over 78 percent Filipinos support Duterte’s bloody drug war
Saturday 23rd September, 2017 - Despite thousands of people losing their lives in Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte’s drug war over the last year - a recent poll has revealed the tremendous support he has in the country.
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A Pew Research Center poll has found more than three-quarters of Filipinos support Duterte’s drug war, despite thousands of deaths and the international condemnation over alleged rights abuses. It said that some 78 percent of Filipinos approve of Duterte’s handling of the illegal drugs issue, with 62 percent believing the government’s campaign was making progress. According to Pew’s face-to-face surveys of 1,000 adults, the president also remains extremely popular a year after his election, with 86 percent saying they had a favorable view of him. The poll, conducted between February 26 and May 8, had a margin of error of 4.3 percent.

It however, predates some recent controversies over Duterte’s administration, including his declaration of martial law on the southern island of Mindanao and drug-smuggling accusations against his son. The Pew survey has also found that 78 percent of Filipinos believed that the current economic situation was good. About 57 said they were satisfied with the direction of the country. The numbers were reportedly a 21 percentage-point increase from the last time Pew asked the question in 2014. Further, some 78 percent surveyed have a positive view of the U.S., compared with 92 percent who expressed such sentiments two years ago.


Meanwhile, 55 percent Filipinos held a positive view of China, one percentage point higher. Filipinos have expressed less confidence in current President Donald Trump than Obama with some 69 percent of those surveyed saying they trusted Trump “to do the right thing in world affairs,” compared with 94 percent who expressed such confidence in Obama in 2015. On Thursday, thousands took to the streets in the capital Manila and Quezon city to mark the anniversary of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos’s martial law declaration 45 years ago. Meanwhile, Duterte’s spokesman Ernesto Abella reiterated the president had no plan to expand military rule beyond Mindanao, where the government battled Islamist militants.

Referring to Marcos’s decade-long martial rule, Duterte said, the state “recognizes the fear and indignation of the people against a repetition and perpetuation of such human rights violations.” Since taking office in June 2016, Duterte has waged a bloody war on illegal drugs and while his administration officials place total deaths at more than 3,400 as of July 26, earlier this year, the Human Rights Watch estimated that more than 7,000 people had been killed, including at least three mayors.

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Over 78 percent Filipinos support Duterte’s bloody drug war
Saturday 23rd September, 2017 - Despite thousands of people losing their lives in Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte’s drug war over the last year - a recent poll has revealed the tremendous support he has in the country.
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some 78 percent surveyed have a positive view of the U.S., compared with 92 percent who expressed such sentiments two years ago.

Meanwhile, 55 percent Filipinos held a positive view of China, one percentage point higher. Filipinos have expressed less confidence in current President Donald Trump than Obama with some 69 percent of those surveyed saying they trusted Trump “to do the right thing in world affairs,” compared with 94 percent who expressed such confidence in Obama in 2015.


Means nothing as the Filipinos, thought Obama would do the right things in world affairs.

Meanwhile, Duterte’s spokesman Ernesto Abella reiterated the president had no plan to expand military rule beyond Mindanao, where the government battled Islamist militants.

Referring to Marcos’s decade-long martial rule, Duterte said, the state “recognizes the fear and indignation of the people against a repetition and perpetuation of such human rights violations.”

Since taking office in June 2016, Duterte has waged a bloody war on illegal drugs and while his administration officials place total deaths at more than 3,400 as of July 26, earlier this year, the Human Rights Watch estimated that more than 7,000 people had been killed, including at least three mayors.

so many support these drug killings. Society is beginning to turn on itself...
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Nearly nine out of 10 back Duterte’s drugs war: poll
Tue, Oct 17, 2017 - Nearly nine out of 10 people support Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s war on drugs and almost three-quarters believe extrajudicial killings are taking place in the bloody crackdown, an Philippine opinion poll showed yesterday.
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Duterte’s signature campaign has killed thousands and caused international alarm amid widespread allegations by activists that police are executing suspected drug users and dealers. Police reject that and say every one of the more than 3,900 victims in their anti-narcotics operations were killed because they were armed and had violently resisted arrest.

Eighty-eight percent of 1,200 people surveyed by pollster Pulse Asia last month said they support the anti-drugs campaign, with 9 percent undecided and 2 percent against it, but 73 percent believed extrajudicial killings were taking place, up from 67 percent in June. A fifth felt there were no such killings, as the authorities maintain, down from 29 percent in June.

The issue of extrajudicial killings is contentious in the Philippines, where definitions of what it means vary from those typically used by international organizations and human rights groups. Pulse Asia in its survey defined the term as “killings done by people in authority, such as the police or soldiers, that do no follow the rule of law.”

Political analysts Ramon Casiple said the survey showed support for the crackdown from those who felt crime was being tackled, but reservations among those most affected. “Communities with reported deaths, generally urban poor communities, are getting increasingly concerned of the killings,” Casiple added.

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Not sure there's any other option than the approach he's taking in their drug war. The Phillipines had become a lot like Mexico, with its cartels and their power. Sometimes you really have to go to war in order to take care of a problem. These cartels and drug smugglers--they only understand one way of dealing with them. If Mexico would take a more aggressive approach, maybe they could actually make a dent in their problem. No one disputes that Duterte is a bad man. But sometimes it takes a killer to deal with killers.
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Philippines’ Duterte Sure Trump Won’t Rebuke His Bloody Drug War
November 12, 2017 — Asia experts say they do not expect President Donald Trump to raise human rights issues and concerns about extrajudicial killings when he meets Monday in Manila with Philipines President Rodrigo Duterte.
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"I'm sure he will not take it up," Duterte himself said Sunday. Human rights groups have expressed alarm over allegations that Philippines police have killed at least 3,000 suspected drug users and dealers in a countrywide crackdown - one of Duterte's major campaign promises. Trump told Duterte earlier this year that he is doing "a great job" but has yet to openly criticize the plain-speaking Philippines president for his alleged campaign of violence. Duterte had once insulted former president Barack Obama, calling him a "son of a whore." He also boasted of murdering someone when he was 16 years-old because the victim gave him a funny look. Except for comments on North Korea, the issue of human rights has scarcely emerged during Trump's Asian tour.


Protesters scuffle with police as they are dispersed while trying to get near the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Philippines to protest against the visit of U.S. President Donald Trump

Trump arrived in Manila Sunday. About 3,500 protesters tried to march on the U.S. Embassy and were stopped by riot police. The protesters shouted for Trump to leave and accused the U.S. government, a former Philippine colonizer of about 50 years, of looking for overseas wars. One banner read “Dump Trump -- #1 Terrorist!” Duterte had once insulted former president Barack Obama, calling him a "son of a whore." He also boasted of murdering someone when he was 16 years-old because the victim gave him a funny look. Except for comments on North Korea, the issue of human rights has scarcely emerged during Trump's Asian tour. Trump arrived in Manila Sunday. About 3,500 protesters tried to march on the U.S. Embassy and were stopped by riot police. The protesters shouted for Trump to leave and accused the U.S. government, a former Philippine colonizer of about 50 years, of looking for overseas wars. One banner read “Dump Trump -- #1 Terrorist!”


Momentum in Vietnam

Before arriving in Manila, Trump met in Hanoi with Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang. Trump told a joint press conference, “For trade to work, all countries must play by the rules. I am encouraged that Vietnam has recently become the fastest growing export market to the United States.” He added “I am confident that American energy, agriculture, financial services, aviation, digital commerce, and defense products are able to meet all of your many commercial needs.” Speaking to Communist Party General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong in Hanoi, Trump said "Think where we are and where we have come, it’s a tribute to both countries. Trade has become a very important element of our relationship.” Quang called his meeting with Trump as "A milestone in Vietnam-U.S. relations, creating strong momentum for the substantive, effective, and stable development of the bilateral, comprehensive partnership.”

North Korea

Trump and Quang also discussed North Korea and the South China Sea. Trump repeated his warning that North Korea represents a major threat to peace and stability in the region. "As I said in my speech to the Republic of Korea’s national assembly, all responsible nations must act now to ensure that North Korea’s rogue regime stops threatening the world with unthinkable loss of life. Safety and security are goals that we can progress, not provocation. I mean, we have been provoked, the world has been provoked. We don’t want that. We want stability not chaos and we want peace, not war.” In a Tweet earlier Sunday, Trump hit back at North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, who had again called him a dotard, a term that describes an elderly person who is losing his mental abilities.


President Donald Trump and Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang pose for photographers at the Presidential Palace, Nov. 12, 2017, in Hanoi, Vietnam.

On Twitter, Trump, who has frequently called Kim “Little Rocket Man,”, said, “Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!” During his bilateral meeting with Quang, Trump also offered his services as a mediator for the South China Sea dispute. When asked about the offer at the press conference, Quang would only say Vietnam seeks a peaceful resolution to the issue through negotiations and in line with international law.

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Philippines' Rodrigo Duterte Sustains Support For Deadly War On Drugs
November 13, 2017 - Inside the Philippines, President Rodrigo Duterte has maintained support for his bloody war on drugs, despite the thousands of lives lost and criticism by human rights groups.
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Duterte has remained popular because most people in the country aren't directly affected by deadly drug war, which is mostly being waged in the inner cities. Since taking office last year, Duterte continues to carry out his pledge to kill every drug dealer and user in the country. Human rights groups say the deadly extra-judicial war has left more than 13,000 people dead. Despite the growing violence and international criticism, Duterte's overall approval ratings inside the Philippines didn't begin to slip until recently, when a new poll suggested his popularity dropped to 48 percent, CNN reported. "Third quarter data tells us that 7 to 8 out of 10 Filipinos continue to support the war on drugs," Dindo Manhit, president of Stratbase ADR Institute, a Manila think tank, told NPR's Michael Sullivan in an interview this week.

Duterte's violent campaign has focused on the poorest areas of the capital city, Manila, says Sheila Coronel, co-founder of the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism and a professor at the Columbia Journalism School. "If you are a poor Filipino living in the slum of Manila ... then you feel really nervous," she tells Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson. "You feel insecure. You feel that you may be targeted whether or not you are a drug user." In fighting the drug war, Coronel says police rely on each village to devise a watch list of dealers and suspected users. Police officers target those on the list, often killing individuals in the dead of night. "They say these people who've been killed by the police at night have mainly fought back, but the reality is that very few policemen have been killed. There is very few policemen who have been wounded," Coronel says. "It's a very one-sided fight. It's really a war against the poorest and most vulnerable sectors of the population."


Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte looks on during the 20th ASEAN China Summit in Manila, Philippines

Coronel explains that most Filipinos who live outside of urban areas are separated from the violence. "If you live in the middle class neighborhood or if you live outside of the big cities where drug dealing is rampant, then you are completely inured from it," she says. "You don't hear about it unless you hear, unless you watch television." In a televised address last month, Duterte ordered the Philippine National Force to end all operations related to the drug war. Since then, the killings have not completely stopped, Coronel says, and the latest polls still show broad support for the drug war. "When you look at this president, he is focused on this war on drugs. It has its excesses. But I don't see any end of it as of now," Manhit says. "But one year after, you want to see, really, successes - that there are less drugs on the streets. Syndicates are being brought down - but not killings of ordinary people."

During his visit to Manila this week, President Trump failed to publicly acknowledge the question of human rights and the drug war. In a leaked transcript of an April phone call with Duterte, Trump praised the Filipino leader, saying he was doing "an unbelievable job on the drug problem." Coronel suggests Duterte has been able to maintain support because of his strong ties to Mindanao, the second largest island located in the southern Philippines. She says residents there who have historically felt marginalized by the Filipino government feel represented by Duterte, who is the first president from Mindanao. "People from Mindanao always complained about what they call 'Manila colonialism,' " Coronel says. "They feel Manila is an imperial power just as I suppose any other far flung province of a country would feel that they do not have the attention. They don't get a fair share of the nation's resources or the attention of the national government."

Duterte has a much-maligned history of cracking down on drugs. When he won the presidential election last year, Duterte touted his 20 years as mayor of Davao in Mindanao in his promise to rid the country of drugs and crime. But as The Guardian reports, Davao still has the highest murder rate in the country and the second highest number of rapes. The scope of Duterte's vicious war in the Philippines echoes that first violent campaign in Davao. When he ordered the first death squad to target drug dealers and users in 1989, he allegedly told police officers: "Throw them in the ocean or the quarry. Make it clean. Make sure there are no traces of the bodies."

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