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Why does the left always side with Muslims over Christians? It doesn't matter the topic. it is ALWAYS Christians = ruthless killers, Muslims = misunderstood purveyors of peace. I think sometimes that the left just wants to give the Muslim / Islamic terrorists a pass as payback for something that happened thousands of years ago. Really pathetic don't you think?
Yes, it is pathetic. I also think people who have a weenie backbone will side with the ones who have no qualms about killing them.
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why do you ignore history and the core of this thread "Let's debate the crusades", OP? The Palestinians were there a lot longer and more recent than the pope who started the crusades.
In any war there is are "good guys" and "bad guys"

So witch one do you favor, Muslim's or Christians. You can't ride the fence pick one... Who is the "good guys" then...

Muslims are a threat to the entire globe, yet the Democrats are in love with the terrorists.

The Palestinians are Muslim BTW. I should know I have some as friends since college.

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IMO the crusades were in response to Muslim aggression. If not for them, Europe would have ended up under sharia law and under a Muslim caliphate.
Instead they ended up under Christendom, expelled their Jews, subjugated their women and burned their witches.

Somehow that is supposed to be better than Islamic rule in that era.
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Instead they ended up under Christendom, expelled their Jews, subjugated their women and burned their witches.

Somehow that is supposed to be better than Islamic rule in that era.
I fail to see how it would have been any different under Islamic rules?

They subjugate their women as well as genital mutilation.. The Jews would have been expelled or more likely killed.. Well witches, got a feeling they would not fair well at all...

So do you ride the fence? On what side do you stand?

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I fail to see how it would have been any different under Islamic rules?
Well, that's kind of the point isn't it? You seem to think that being under Christian law is somehow better. It wasn't really - it sucked to be a woman, or the wrong flavor of religion...or gay...or weird...

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They subjugate their women as well as genital mutilation.. The Jews would have been expelled or more likely killed.. Well witches, got a feeling they would not fair well at all...
Jews faired better overall under Islamic rule. Witches, about the same I suspect. Women? About the same. Genital mutilation is not widespread in Islam - it's North Africa (and includes Christian dominated regions) and Egypt, some of the Mid East. It's culture more than religion.

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The Crusades were every bit as brutal as the Muslim conquests and the reasons for it were ironic...considering the Christian conquests.
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Why does the left always side with Muslims over Christians? It doesn't matter the topic. it is ALWAYS Christians = ruthless killers, Muslims = misunderstood purveyors of peace. I think sometimes that the left just wants to give the Muslim / Islamic terrorists a pass as payback for something that happened thousands of years ago. Really pathetic don't you think?
Really now? I don't think "the left" actually says that.

More likely, they say Christians weren't any better than the Muslims in history.
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Really now? I don't think "the left" actually says that.

More likely, they say Christians weren't any better than the Muslims in history.
I disagree, they, (the left) are always saying islam is the religion of peace, which as we know is a bunch of BS.
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Instead they ended up under Christendom, expelled their Jews, subjugated their women and burned their witches.

Somehow that is supposed to be better than Islamic rule in that era.
What a crock of shlt!
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Really now? I don't think "the left" actually says that.

More likely, they say Christians weren't any better than the Muslims in history.
The last two words are the issue...

You have to go back HUNDREDS OF YEARS to find any comparison to Islam TODAY...

"Look what Islam is doing!!"

Liberal response - "Oh yeah? Look what Christians did in 1573!!!!"

Even the president pulled that pathetic line...

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The last two words are the issue...

You have to go back HUNDREDS OF YEARS to find any comparison to Islam TODAY...

"Look what Islam is doing!!"

Liberal response - "Oh yeah? Look what Christians did in 1573!!!!"

Even the president pulled that pathetic line...

Exactly right. That's why the dopes on the left look at it as payback. That's all they got!
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