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Manitou 12-13-2014 09:08 PM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 718904)
As I said, I am always amazed, and often amused, at how the worldly interpret Heaven.

It is not a "place."

And I have to say that I am amused you know that Heaven is not a place.:D

Mikeyy 12-13-2014 09:14 PM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
Like hell it's not

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Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 718923)
And I have to say that I am amused you know that Heaven is not a place.:D


saltwn 12-14-2014 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD (Post 718834)
It is grossly unfair to ask Christians about heaven because they don't have any clue about it. They believe in it but don't have any ideas about what it would be. They can't answer even the most pragmatic of questions.... such as....

... if you're married, your spouse dies, and you remarry then what happens if all three people end up in heaven? What if your two spouses hate each other's guts? That would be an eternal living hell. What if they don't? Do you get to live in a three-way marriage in heaven (and if so why couldn't you do that here?).

No, it's not fair to ask Christians any questions about heaven because it's a mythical place that doesn't even work if questions are asked about it.

23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, So too happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32[B] ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

:fyi

--Matthew 22:23-30

ShivaTD 12-15-2014 07:00 AM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
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Originally Posted by FrancSevin (Post 718904)
As I said, I am always amazed, and often amused, at how the worldly interpret Heaven.

It is not a "place."

Don't tell my mom that. She's turning 95 next month and recently commented to me that she believes she will be sitting at the "feet of Christ" presumably singing "Kumbaya" for the next hundred zillion years of eternity (and that sounds very boring to me).

Of course there are some from the '60's that believed they were in "heaven" when tripping on LSD and who am I to argue with them.

In truth "eternal life" would always result in "eternal boredom" and that's an absurd proposition.

ShivaTD 12-15-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 718943)
.... they will be like the angels in heaven.

If I recall the Biblical story correctly Satan was an angel that rebelled at the absolute tyranny of the God of Abraham.

Of course this was just a story created by men based upon the earlier Epic of Gilgamesh that provided the foundation for the Hebrew religious texts. If we trace religions back far enough they originate with early cave paintings and stories of superstition that existed long before the written languages of Mesopotamia in about 3,300 BCE (or about 2700 years before the Hebrew Torah was written in 600 BCE).

The study of the evolution of religion from early superstition and myth is a facinating field of inquiry. They all really have the same origins in myth and superstition and then layer is built upon layer until we reach the present day religious beliefs.

For example Christianity is based upon the Hebrew Torah (that was based upon the Epic of Gilgamesh) with a little Greek/Roman mythology tossed into the mix so that it could be marketed to the Romans along with the Jews.

Manitou 12-15-2014 09:30 AM

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I find it amusing that some people use BCE (before the common era) instead of BC (before Christ), both designations meaning the reckoning of the times, which is the birth of Jesus, the year 1 Anno Domini (the year of our Lord).

Mikeyy 12-15-2014 09:32 AM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
You find that amusing. You are easily entertained.
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Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 719152)
I find it amusing that some people use BCE (before the common era) instead of BC (before Christ), both designations meaning the reckoning of the times, which is the birth of Jesus, the year 1 Anno Domini (the year of our Lord).


Manitou 12-15-2014 09:49 AM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 719155)
You find that amusing. You are easily entertained.

And you are one of the best entertainers here, more fun than a barrel of drunken monkeys.:D

MrLiberty 12-15-2014 10:13 AM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
Well, they better have deer in heaven cause I want to do some hunting. :yes

Mikeyy 12-15-2014 10:15 AM

Re: Animals in Heaven
 
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Originally Posted by MrLiberty (Post 719162)
Well, they better have deer in heaven cause I want to do some hunting. :yes

Why? You like to kill things? You won't need food in heaven from what I hear


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