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From the institute of Creation Research. Much more at the site.

What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg? Institute for Creation Research - A Christ-Focused Creation Ministry

by John D. Morris, Ph.D.
This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

According to the Creator of chickens, and the author of the Record of their origins, chickens came first. It was on the Fifth Day of Creation Week that He created "every winged fowl after [their] kind" (Genesis 1:21) complete with the DNA to reproduce that kind. Then He "blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply" (v.22) using that DNA. For the chickens this meant lay chicken eggs. Problem solved.

Chickens are amazingly complex creatures, with their hollow bones, intricate feathers, four-chambered heart, continuous air intake, high metabolism, complex brain, good hearing, superb color vision, etc. Modern domestic chickens aren't very good flyers, having been bred to stay home, but neither were the recently wild forefathers of chickens from which they were bred. Everything about a chicken suggests careful design.

Even a chicken's egg is well designed. The embryo nestles safely inside, surrounded and cushioned by amniotic fluid and nourished by the yolk. Metabolic wastes are insulated from the rest, while oxygen and carbon dioxide are exchanged across the hard but porous shell.
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Howstuffworks "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

This question appears regularly in the question file, so let's take a shot at it.

In nature, living things evolve through changes in their DNA. In an animal like a chicken, DNA from a male sperm cell and a female ovum meet and combine to form a zygote -- the first cell of a new baby chicken. This first cell divides innumerable times to form all of the cells of the complete animal. In any animal, every cell contains exactly the same DNA, and that DNA comes from the zygote.

Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.

Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first.

Here are some interesting links:

Does the chicken's body make the shell and fill it with the white and yolk somehow, or does it make the white and yolk and then somehow wrap the shell around it?

These are links at the site.
How can an egg carton claim that the contained eggs have less fat and more vitamin E?
Why do eggs turn hard when you boil them?
How Cells Work
How Evolution Works
How Gene Pools Work
O.K., yeah, so why haven't we ever discovered any nests of animals with babies that didn't look like the parents? Like a bunch of dead adult dinosaurs with little baby rhinoceroses cuddled up to mommy? Or a group of prehistoric gorillas with a human baby?
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Salty.. I presented 4 choices of so many. I can't explain how one or the other is correct. But you do bring up some thoughtful points. Two do support the idea of the chicken being first. I just tried to continue the thread with more on both sides.
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