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Old 07-06-2012, 08:06 AM
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Freedom of religion for me but not for thee

Muslims not welcome in Louisiana.
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"If you have nothing to hide"...ha. When have we heard that one before?
It most certainly WAS NOT involving some people's approaches to how corporations involve themselves in our government...
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"If you have nothing to hide"...ha. When have we heard that one before?
My point is, that a reasonable condition for any public vouchers, grants etc. for any private school should be that an unannounced State inspector should be able to walk into any class, student assembly, or student sporting event at any time.

I think that would allay a great deal of concerns about what might go on in Muslim schools, fringe "Christian" schools, Buddhist schools, ethnically oriented schools or any other.
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I'm probably wasting my electrons here, but in the interest of sanity, I will try, yet again, to point out that Muslim institutions, including schools, tend to be very different from what most Westerners imagine.

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I'm probably wasting my electrons here, but in the interest of sanity, I will try, yet again, to point out that Muslim institutions, including schools, tend to be very different from what most Westerners imagine.

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I just checked. It worked perfectly for me.

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I'd say you have made a good case for state run schools that are devoid or all inclusive of religions.
It is not unheard of for religious leaders of any denomination to ask their flock to abstain from fraternizing with 'worldly' people outside the faith.
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I'd say you have made a good case for state run schools that are devoid or all inclusive of religions.
It is not unheard of for religious leaders of any denomination to ask their flock to abstain from fraternizing with 'worldly' people outside the faith.
Exactly.
And that's ignoring the EXISTING LEGAL PRECEDENT which some Christians have conveniently set up which would prevent Oftencold's desired inspections.

Some Christians have already said "No" to what Oftencold is talking about...

So you can't make Muslims comply with something that Christians have already rejected...

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At any moment, state inspectors can step uninvited into one of the three child care centers that Ethel White runs in Auburn, Ala., to make sure they meet state requirements intended to ensure that the children are safe. There must be continuing training for the staff. Her nurseries must have two sinks, one exclusively for food preparation. All cabinets must have safety locks. Medications for the children must be kept under lock and key, and refrigerated.

The Rev. Ray Fuson of the Harvest Temple Church of God in Montgomery, Ala., does not have to worry about unannounced state inspections at the day care center his church runs. Alabama exempts church day care programs from state licensing requirements, which were tightened after almost a dozen children died in licensed and unlicensed day care centers in the state in two years.

The differences do not end there. As an employer, Ms. White must comply with the civil rights laws; if employees feel mistreated, they can take the center to court. Religious organizations, including Pastor Fuson’s, are protected by the courts from almost all lawsuits filed by their ministers or other religious staff members, no matter how unfairly those employees think they have been treated.

And if you are curious about how Ms. White’s nonprofit center uses its public grants and donations, read the financial statements she is required to file each year with the Internal Revenue Service. There are no I.R.S. reports from Harvest Temple. Federal law does not require churches to file them.
Oooh....
What to do. What to do...

Do those Christians give up their special privileges they have set up for themselves?
Or do they try to enforce laws against Muslims?
Can't have it both ways...
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