I hear many complaints about "separation of church and state".
Why is it that the issue of "separation of church and business" never comes up?

Because there is no legal doctrine establishing that businesses can't put up crosses on their property. No legal doctrine preventing a business owner from "establishing" his own public endorsement of religion.
So why don't they?

I mean, why is it supposedly "appropriate" and "exercise of free religion" to put a 29 foot tall cross on public land...
It's supposedly an "exercise of free religion" to place a 5,280 pound ten commandment monument in the court house...

But in places that CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY own, like their delis and oil change spots and barber shops and convenience stores and ...
THOSE places, you just don't see it...

Why is that?
Is it only fun if you're trying to usurp government land? Is that it?

I'll have to agree, I don't know why more people don't put their religious icons in their businesses. They used to more than now, I think.

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I think it depends on the business and the religion...

I see alot of Buddhas and small idols with incense burning in the businesses I go into... alot of liquor stores

rarely do I see a cross...

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Maybe this is because many are ashamed that their business practices violate their religious values?

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Stuff like that is usually taken as a fad and not taken seriously by the clientele nomatter how important it is to the employees...

Or they don't want to ruffle the feathers of those customers who will whine like children...

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The Church...IS a business, thus the two cannot be separated.

If that is the case, then why is there such pressure to include the religious symbols when it comes to government?

If that supposedly is the reason for not displaying the religious symbols in business, then why is that reason ignored when it comes displaying the religious symbols on government property?


I don't believe your excuse.

I think the REAL reason is akin to the reason that we don't see people bowing their heads in restaurants to pray before their meal.
Too many people's "Christianity" is not about what the bible tells them in THEIR lives, but how they can apply it in OTHER people's lives.
Too many people's "Christianity" revolves around a need to feel persecuted, so they avoid the simple gestures that they are legally entitled to, and go for the more contraversial of putting up government property displays. Creating a contraversy which CAN go to the courts.

On another thread there was discussion of a shop owner who put up a sign that said that people could only make orders in English.
Yet we don't see the same type of courage when it comes to simply affirming ones faith in the business setting.
And instead of questioning yourself and/or your religion on why, you try to put it off onto other people.

I have seen religious displays (of Christianity) in recent memory, come to think of it, but most are down south. And a few in the northwest. Also a lot of people have a fish sign on their car or something. Also-and I don't know if this will qualify for what you are looking for- there are many ranchers and farmers who put up crosses and messages along the highway on their own property which is their business.

Why do you search for things to criticize this one religion? you remind me of the woman once scorned who now hates all men.

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My view on it is that many Christians don't put it in their business because they don't want to push away business.

With all the negative press that Christian faiths have been getting it is no wonder that they would not advertise it in their business.

Saltwn... as far as looking for reasons to criticize that one religion(which is really many religions) it is because SOME Christians are some of the loudest critics in the world. I bet you won't find any extremist Wiccan groups demonstrating against gay marriage, abortion, or just being different.

It is not fair to condemn all Christians in a blanket statement...

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There are "I found it; so can you!" types in every walk of life and religion is no exception. Wiccans, too, can think their way is the only way and want to save you from yourself. A lot of that type of personality- the ones who've struggled through addiction or persecution or poverty or abuse and then found a place of peace- are drawn to Evangelical groups; just as all priests and scout leaders are not child abusers, but many child abusers are drawn to those professions and organizations that give them access to kids.
I'm not saying all Evangelicals are lost. Or that they are all the same. Or even that the ones who's hearts are in the right place, but their minds have gone haywire aren't going to get to heaven.
We should all pray in our own way for these people's eyes to open to the fact that it is O.K. to be human.
Some people keep their souls in a tight knit bag because they are afraid they will lose what they have gained. It is not for me to tell someone not to worry about an aspect of their faith, when I don't know the state of their walk with God and I don't know what it takes for them to get up in the morning.
Don't forget, very religious people spit on Jesus. And if they turned around and asked for forgiveness, God would forgive them in the name of His son they had spit on.
God cannot see sin. Jesus is the go-between; the door that the Greeks spoke about that mortal needed to communicate with immortal.
So, I ask again that you and all who have been tortured or irritated by these right hearted/wrong headed people, stop and give yourself peace while asking God to forgive them.
Thank you.

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