You are also voting for Obama's poor judgement in this matter! Clearly this is a black supremest congrgation,you can make excuses for Obama's 20 year affiliation with them but I won't. If my priest regularly put down black people,I would not remain in that church for long.I believe silence can lend consent but "suddenly"..Obama is no longer silent,he now condemns Wright's rhetoric and that's no coincidence.

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It would be poor judgment if it impacted his personal politics. It hasn't. This is an issue used by those who would separate us over something so senseless.

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It impacts and highlights his judgement on racial issues. He poses as a "unit-er" yet belongs to a clearly racially radical congregation. Some of us see the dichotomy while others refuse the obvious!

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The obvious being that despite belonging to a questionable organization, his membership has not effected his message, his beliefs, or his policy positions. The only real areas a candidate should be judged on. God forbid we go back and judge the rest of American Presidents on the standard you and others put forth.

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Obama has "chosen" to align himself with a clearly racist anti - American congregation and that matters to any Independent voter! Partisans require much more before they will give up their icon,that's just the way it is,somethings will never change.Obama's decision to reject Wright's message and the message his congregation overwhelmingly supports 20 years later proves to me that he must have had "some" agreement with the message. I'm sorry..the message does matter here.There are many black churches who are not promoting and fostering a continued racial divide that Obama could have chosen.The congrgation and the message being taught by it's Shepperd was supported.Obama's 20 year membership in that congregation lends his support to the message.

Would you attend a radical racist service for 20 years because your friend was the Minister? If your answer is yes then we are worlds apart in ethics.I could never justify attending KKK meetings for 20 years even if my Father was the Imperial Wizard!

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It is at best complicit support, but we shouldn't hold Obama accountable for his pastor. I went to a church that wasn't exactly on the up and up. It was a self-professed Christian church, but the message preached was decided un-Christian. It wasn't interested in social justice at all. I've since switched, but it was a very difficult process because of the connections I still have with those people. Despite my detest of their politics, I don't consider them to be bad people. Misguided, but we are all misguided to an extent.

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Well, he not only went to that church but supported it if he believes in the Christian faith. Which means he took part in paying that man to an outspoken racist and American defamer....

It has nothing to do with fear, it is simple logic.

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Would it be different if Obama was a 20 year member of NAMBLA but then said he was totally against the sexual subjugation of young boys?

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Now here we can find ground for agreement. I can relate to Obama's plight in his unwillingness to give up the congregational "comfort zone".Yet it is complicit support and I do not now, nor ever have held Obama accountable for his pastor! I hold Obama accountable for his dichotomy between uniting the nation while remaining in a divisive and racist community for 20 years.Could there be "other" reasons as to why he remains in that church? Sure,they helped him build his base of power within the black community. He may well feel that he "owes" them something for that.Every member of Obamas fellow members of that congrgation knows that racial rhetoric is part of the sermon!Thus,they cannot claim ignorance to the message.

Are all of David Dukes supporters bad? Many if not most are racist and they like his message. All of us at some point have to question our own affiliations. Like you,I was involved in an organization and I was at a fairly high level. I loved my position and the respect paid to me. It was not easy but when they said the American flag should not be displaid,I left the organization and gave up many friends within 24 hours of that decision. We all make choices in our lives and when we make the wrong decision,we have to account for our actions.

Nobody rides for free,not even a politician! Every move must be calculated for eventual impact. Believe me when I say Obama "knew" that this day could come. He clung to his power base,he is a rising star,how could he turn his back on them now? It's not so much about religion or even racisim,it's about power and achieving power and in that process,religion and ethics at least for a time,must play second fiddle. I think I understand Obama's position,sadly,I just don't agree with it.One need not give up one's faith to change congregations and Obama knows that all too well.

Is this much to do about nothing? No..I think we have gained a little insight to Obama's true priorities,this gaff as well as others, may cost him the nomination and the Presidency.This in turn may also cost Hillary the Presidency,How? When Obama and if Obama fails to get the nomination,will ardent "black" Obama supporters "automatically" switch to Hillary when their man fails? Hillary has had her hand in bashing Obama and it will get much uglier over time. My point?... Hillary may end up with far less support from blacks than her husband received...Advantage..John Sydney McCain III

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Your entire comment is very intelligent and most observant of the current situation.

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My point?... Hillary may end up with far less support from blacks than her husband received...Advantage..John Sydney McCain III

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