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Old 01-29-2012, 08:25 PM
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You can spin it any way you would like, Foundit. The bottom line is Coyote used this thread to attack religion. There was ZERO reason to bring it up. She knew what she was doing.
What the hell? Where did I attack religion?
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What the hell? Where did I attack religion?
He's talking about me. He got the names mixed up. I didn't attack religion either unless telling the truth and drawing comparisons between similar behaviors is considered attacking now.
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What the hell? Where did I attack religion?
I typed your name instead of CF's.
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A little disturbing, to be honest with you.

Believe in what you want to. There is no reason to attempt to insult others in the process.

You receive bonus points if you catch the glaring hypocrisy in the article.

One of the main organizers said this:



That is great. But then some of the lyrics say this:







Church-Burning Video Used to Promote Atheist Event at Ft. Bragg | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes


This sort of stuff doesnt bug me anymore. These people are entertainers and their audience probably scoops this crap up. If we worried about everything that happens that offends us well....that wouldn't be much fun. Anyways, let these kids have their party, we still live in America they can say whatever they want. It don't affect me.
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He's talking about me. He got the names mixed up. I didn't attack religion either unless telling the truth and drawing comparisons between similar behaviors is considered attacking now.
Ah...ok.

You know, I notice in a lot of threads people take exception to comparisons being drawn and subsequently the intent of the poster, that I don't think is necessarily fair.

In some cases the OP is a deliberate attempt to malign a particular religion (or political ideology) and the poster only wants affirmation that that religion or ideology is the epidemy of evil. When you try to point out that those attitudes are common to a number of religions or ideologies you are damned for trying to derail the thread and asked why you can't simply "condemn it".

In other cases - drawing comparisons of the unfamiliar with the familiar is one way of better understanding attitudes that while they come out of unfamiliar cultures are, at the root, similar to attitudes that come out of familiar cultures. One example would be attitudes towards homosexuality in the Abrahamic faiths. I find that if the argument is to try to present some sort of common ground - comparisons are the best way to do it. We are culturally a Christian country (even though many of us are largely secular) - it is the lens through which we tend to first view the world and it is our frequent "fall back" when presented with something different. It takes a lot of effort to get past that and comparisons are often helpful. But of course - it doesn't work if the person has no desire to see common ground. Issues of religion are seldom as black and white as people would wish.
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This sort of stuff doesnt bug me anymore. These people are entertainers and their audience probably scoops this crap up. If we worried about everything that happens that offends us well....that wouldn't be much fun. Anyways, let these kids have their party, we still live in America they can say whatever they want. It don't affect me.
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My attitude about this is "Well ain't the First Amendment a tricky little devil?"

They have the right to say anything they want. Anyone who doesn't want to attend has the right not to go to the damned concert. Problem solved.

I wish people would spend more time worrying about edifying their own beliefs (or non-belief) and less time worrying about diminishing or taking exception to the beliefs of others.
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I'm an atheist. These people do not speak for me, this BAND does not speak for me.

As an atheist, I do not understand having a rally in opposition to something religious that is happening. I just wouldn't go to the thing that is happening that is religious.

I have come to realize that I am a minority as far as my non-beliefs are concerned in America. That will never change.

It would be nice if people would stop using faith as a political wedge issue and pitting people of faith against NOT JUST atheists, but anyone who does not subscribe to a certain subset of beliefs of one particular religion.

I have been aware lately on discussion boards, for instance, of Christians telling other Christians they are not true Christians because they don't buy into some of the same dogma.

I realize I am not a part of the Christian heritage of this country. I am fine with that. I only get my dander up when people use religion as some kind of justification to legislate their personal moral code.
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I'm an atheist. These people do not speak for me, this BAND does not speak for me.

As an atheist, I do not understand having a rally in opposition to something religious that is happening. I just wouldn't go to the thing that is happening that is religious.
That's how I pretty much feel about everything from art exhibits to television programming to radio shows to the Folsom St Fair. If I don't like it or have some objection to it, it's not that hard to simply not expose myself to it by turning the channel, not walking into the art gallery, or avoiding Folsom St one weekend out of the entire year.
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