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Old 12-08-2011, 11:59 PM
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I'm an atheist, but I never tried to prevent my kids from going to church. Both went at one time or another with friends.
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I'm an atheist, but I never tried to prevent my kids from going to church. Both went at one time or another with friends.
and if you care to share the out come? meaning values gained etc.

See this is what non believer miss most of the time. We have two mods who I think would agree on this with me.

But if they didn't it wouldn't matter any way. The point being that some early teachings with church involvement in some cases do create more than self..

And that is the most important point in His Way, once you believe in Him. Jesus!

And it continues if one reads the Bible with an open mind. Why?

Because in time each will find some light and if wise follow it, to much more understanding of what they have read over and over.
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My daughter is one of them militant athiests and my son actually thinks eastern philosophies like buddhism are the answer. I gave them the freedom to decide for themselves what they wanted. I disagree with both of them but I believe that God has a plan for everyone and a way to reach them. In the end, what matters most is that they are both happy and successful. Not much more I can ask than that.

I applaud atheists who expose their children to religion and faith. I think everyone should be able to choose for themselves and given all the options. We are all Gods children, some just take a different route.
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and if you care to share the out come? meaning values gained etc.

See this is what non believer miss most of the time. We have two mods who I think would agree on this with me.
My older son mostly attended youth group activities with a friend of his when he was 11, 12, 13. I don't know if he got anything out of it spiritually; I think he liked to go because there was pizza, girls, and fun activities like ice skating.
I guess the result is that maybe it kept him out of trouble a little longer, and introduced him to a different class of kids than he was typically exposed to in our neighborhood, which is a little bit rough. Around age 13, he just lost interest and didn't want to go anymore.
My younger son is a "seeker". He is spiritual; he believes in a higher power or powers. He has attended many different churches as well as explored alternate religions like Buddhism and Wicca. His stepmother is Jewish; he toyed with the idea of becoming Jewish for awhile, which is something I hadn't thought was possible but apparently it is.
He has not yet found the spiritual path that's right for him, but I expect he will someday; the girl he lives with now- the mother of his child- is a Christian and was raised in a very strict religious environment, so that rubs off on him a bit.
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My sister is atheist like me and allows her children to go to church stuff if they want. She doesn't push them to, and she doesn't try to stop them. However, she has recently started wrestling with not allowing them to go since she doesn't like what they're being taught there. They enjoy going to sunday school type stuff (where they color and play games) and she doesn't want to take that away from them, but at the same time she is really pissed about what they're being taught. So, she's working on an alternative - something to take the place of the fun and games that doesn't teach them things she doesn't like.

My parents never let me know what their beliefs were until after I had decided what mine were. They allowed me to go to whatever church I wanted to go to, never said a word about it, sent me to church camps when I wanted to go, etc. My mother is VERY well versed in the bible and would explain things to me when I would come home from church with questions. I had no idea she was an agnostic/atheist until I was well into adulthood. When I was wrestling with my own beliefs - or lack thereof - my parents never said a word to push me that direction. When I questioned the church and what they were teaching me, my parents supported my desire for questions, tried to answer as best they could according to the bible and themselves, and just let me find my own way. I went to church all the time from as young as I can remember. I went to church camps and participated in many church activities. I went to several different churches since I didn't understand denominations. As far as I was concerned, 'god' was 'god' and didn't matter which building I went into to learn. My parents never said any different.

Around 12 or so I decided church wasn't for me. But it wasn't because my atheist mother forced me that way. My folks did everything they could to make sure my exposure to spirituality was not inhibited. My sister is trying to do the same with her kids.
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my daughter is one of them militant athiests and my son actually thinks eastern philosophies like buddhism are the answer. I gave them the freedom to decide for themselves what they wanted. I disagree with both of them but i believe that god has a plan for everyone and a way to reach them. In the end, what matters most is that they are both happy and successful. Not much more i can ask than that.

I applaud atheists who expose their children to religion and faith. I think everyone should be able to choose for themselves and given all the options. We are all gods children, some just take a different route.
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I am an atheist, but I approve of spirituality and I approve of religion viewed as a philosophy rather than a conduit to heaven.

I think my biggest problem with religion is that in lieu of not having all the answers, people take a narrative like The Bible and then say...well, this is the truth, this is how the world was created, and this is what will happen to us, and this is what an intelligent creator wants from us.

Sorry, but I would never expose a child to that narrative. I would teach them about spirituality and then try to give them a comparative explanation about all the major religions. After that, if they expressed an interest in going to church, I might let them, but it would have to be a church that at least expresses my views and is completely open to alternative lifestyles and GLBT people.

As soon as anyone told them this is the only way to some imaginary after-life, I would take them out immediately.
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.. knowuryder you in the habit of posting and not bothering to accept my replies?

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There are a lot of atheists in Europe who attend services because for them it is about community and tradition, I read this in an article recently and I want to see if I can find it.

I bet you devout people don't discuss the possibility of there NOT being a god with THEIR children thus giving THEM a choice.

Hummm me thinks you have created a situation where you in striking out at the devout people. Have plainly, didn't think it through. Why would any devout person/people teach other, when our Liberal public schools teach it for us?

My brother is an atheist and a doctor but he took his kids to The Unitarian Church so that they could be exposed to faith and worship, they chose not to follow it as they got older, but I liked that he tried.
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See it it is easy to leave it, and I too like that he tried..
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.. knowuryder you in the habit of posting and not bothering to accept my replies?
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Hey in your land of The Green Fairy's I guess you pay a lot of games..

So why waste my time as you enjoy it... Say good-by as you made my Ignore list.

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