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Pentagon Says Sodomy/Bestiality Repeal 'Fails to Rise to Level of News'; But Former Chief Army Prosecutor Says 'Yes it Does'
December 9, 2011 - A Defense Department spokesman claims that a provision in the Senate defense authorization bill that repeals the criminalization of sodomy and sex with animals – bestiality – was just a cosmetic change to military law that the Defense Department began eight years ago.
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In an interview Thursday with CNSNews.com, Army Lt. Col. Todd Braesseale (pronounced: BRAZIL) said the provision was an effort to comply with the Supreme Court’s 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision striking down state laws on sodomy.

“I’m not entirely sure of the timeline. I know it started immediately following the Supreme Court ruling on the Texas case, which ruled that states do not have an interest in upholding sodomy laws, and so at that point, the department, under the former administration, began work trying to align the Uniform Code of Military Justice into a set of codes and regulations that would be in line with the U.S. Constitution,” Braesseale told CNSNews.com.

The Pentagon spokesman also challenged the idea that the Senate bill strikes down Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice – and told CNSNews.com that bestiality is still illegal under military law. Braesseale also said he "failed to see how this rises to the level of news."

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PETA Rebukes White House for 'Flippantly' Dismissing Question on Senate's Vote to Legalize Bestiality in Military
December 8, 2011 - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has written a letter to White House Press Secrtary Jay Carney rebuking him for "flippantly" dismissing a question he was asked at Monday's press briefing about last week's Senate vote approving a bill that would repeal the military's ban on bestiality.
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PETA has also written to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta asking him to make sure that language is added to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) to prohibit both bestiality and cruelty to animals. A provision in the Defense authorization bill that passed the Senate last week by a 93-to-7 vote would strip the provision from the UCMJ that currently prohibits sodomy and bestiality. In a letter to Carney, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk told the White House spokesman that the animal rights group was upset that Carney laughingly dismissed a reporter's question asking about the commander-in-chief’s position on bestiality. "In watching last night's news briefing, we were upset to note that you flippantly addressed the recently approved repeal of the military ban on bestiality," Newkirk writes. "As we outlined in the attached letter sent yesterday to the Secretary of Defense, animal abuse does not affect animals only--it is also a matter of public safety, as people who abuse animals very often go on to abuse human beings."

"[M]illions of Americans are upset that animals no longer have even minimal protections under the UCMJ [Uniform Code of Military Justice]," the PETA president wrote. "We hope that the public outcry against this inadvertent lapse will inspire the military to take action to make sure that it will be able to fully and appropriately serve and protect all Americans--human and nonhuman alike," Newkirk said. In a separate letter, Newkirk told Defense Secretary Leon Panetta that "an emergency exists" and asked Panetta for his "immediate intervention” in the bestiality situation. “PETA is being inundated with complaints regarding the inadvertent removal of an anti-bestiality provision from the Uniform Code of Military Justice, stripping away what minimal protection the UCMJ afforded “non-public” (i.e., non-service) animals,” the letter said. “This change means that bestiality charges can now be filed only at the discretion of superior officers--under a catch-all provision of the UCMJ prohibiting behavior unbecoming a service member,” Newkirk added.

The animal-rights organization lectured the defense secretary on the dangers of animal abuse and its linkage with sexual assault on humans. “On behalf of our millions of U.S. members, as well as those overseas where our military also serves, we ask that you please act immediately to establish a policy of zero tolerance for cruelty to animals by adding a section to the UCMJ prohibiting cruelty--including bestiality--to non-public animals,” she wrote. The repeal of the military law against sodomy and sex with animals was contained in the 926-page Department of Defense authorization bill that the Senate passed last Thursday evening. Page 174 of the bill includes the provision headlined in capital letters: “REPEAL OF SODOMY ARTICLE.”

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This is the first I have heard of Ann Barnhardt. I looked at some of her other videos. She is pretty good on some other issues....I really like the one where she trashes Romney.
I guess it's no wonder wingnuts believe the things they do when they're so gullible as to believe Barnhardt's Islamophobic nonsense.
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I guess it's no wonder wingnuts believe the things they do when they're so gullible as to believe Barnhardt's Islamophobic nonsense.
Just wondering, if you're Islamophobic does that mean you subconsciously want to be a Muslim? You know, like with homophobic.

As to Barnhardt, why are you assuming if you watch her, and find her entertaining you necessarily believe everything she says? I get a kick out of her. She's feisty. She's fun to listen to.

She's not my favorite, feisty, anti-jihadist supergirl though. That would be this one.

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She's not my favorite, feisty, anti-jihadist supergirl though. That would be this one.
Why am I not surprised that the birther and hate monger who was most often cited by Anders Breivik in his manifesto is someone you find appealing?

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Why am I not surprised that the birther and hate monger who was most often cited by Anders Breivik in his manifesto is someone you find appealing?
And why am I not surprised that you rely on Prog troll blogs like ThinkProgress for that spew.

See, I click that video where Pamela is actually giving her point of view, and she's making sense. Good enough for me. I don't have to rely on George Soros to dig up out of context crap to tell me what to think.
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See, I click that video where Pamela is actually giving her point of view, and she's making sense.
There's your problem - Geller makes sense to you. You might want to get that looked at.
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There's your problem - Geller makes sense to you. You might want to get that looked at.
Pam makes sense to me, yes. It's because I actually listen to what she says.

George Soros propaganda outlets make sense to you. That's what makes your eyes spin.

Different strokes, I suppose.

Hey BTW, speaking of spinning eyes. I notice you linked to LittleGreenfootballs. What happened to those guys? They used to be funny. Loved the Green Helmet Guy. That was hilarious. Now though, every time I see LGB linked they're spewing Prog hate. What turned such funny guys into such haters. They were kind of independent at one time. Now they're totally Prog.

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Armed Services Panel Dem: Repeal Bestiality Ban, It's Not ‘Relevant To One’s Conduct as a Military Officer’
December 14, 2011 -- Rep. Rob Andrews (D-N.J.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told CNSNews.com that he supports repealing the military's ban against sodomy and bestiality because, while he does not condone these practices, he does not think whether someone engages in these behaviors is "relevant to one's conduct as a military officer or an enlisted person."
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On Capitol Hill on Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked Andrews: "Did you know that the Senate Version of the Defense Authorization Bill, it includes a provision which repeals Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice--that's the law against sodomy and bestiality--a provision not in the House Bill. Are you aware of that?” Andrews said: “I am aware of that, yeah.” When asked whether he thought that provision should be in the final version of the legislation, Andrews said he believes Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice should be repealed. "Repealing the provision against sodomy and bestiality in the commercial, uh, in the military code? Yeah, I do think we should repeal that in the military code," he said.

"I think--I don't condone either practice,” he said, “but I don't think either practice is really relevant to one's conduct as a military officer or an enlisted person. So, I think if there are instances of that, they’re better dealt with by the civil law of whatever country it would occur in.” As CNSNews.com previously reported, the Senate version of the Defense authorization bill included language that would have repealed Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Article 125 states: “(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

The provision in the Senate defense bill, which was headlined “REPEAL OF SODOMY ARTICLE,” was located on Page 174 of the bill. The provision states: “Section 925 of such title (article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice) is repealed.” Click here to see the language of the provision as posted on Uniform Code of Military Justice website. This week, the conference committee working to reconcile the differences between the Senate and House versions of the National Defense Authorization Act removed the “Repeal of Sodomy Article” from the legislation.

The pro-homosexual Servicemembers Legal Defense Network released a statement on the issue that said, “However, we are very disappointed that the conferees voted to keep the sodomy provisions in Article 125. Dropping Article 125 has been recommended for more than a decade by SLDN and several groups, including the Cox Commission that includes distinguished legal scholars from the military and academia, as well as the Comprehensive Review Working Group (CRWG). The Senate was right to take this action, and it is unfortunate that their attempt to end Article 125 did not prevail. SLDN will continue to work with the Senate, House, and Department of Defense to bring about this needed change.”

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Despite Plea from Obama Administration, Conference Committee Restores Military Ban on Sodomy, Bestiality
December 15, 2011 - Despite a plea from the Obama administration that the military ban on sodomy and bestiality be repealed, a House-Senate conference committee has restored the ban to the final version of the National Defense Authorization Act.
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The sodomy-bestiality ban would have been repealed by the version of the bill that had been approved by the Senate. A spokesman for the House Armed Services Committee told CNSNews.com Wednesday that the Obama administration had “made its pitch” on repealing Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice related to sodomy--but the members of the conference committee “were not persuaded” that the change was needed. Tom McClusky, vice president of government relations for the Family Research Council, praised House Armed Services Chairman Howard “Buck” McKeon (R-Calif.), saying McKeon was one of the reasons why the Senate-passed provision did not wind up in the final conference report. “Chairman McKeon has just been stellar during these whole negotiations--and he always is standing up for the troops--but from what I hear, he was the one most insistent that Article 125 stays,” McLusky told CNSNews.com.

Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice says that “(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall by punished as a court-martial may direct.” McClusky also credited public outrage directed at members of the Senate--who had voted 93-7 less than two weeks ago to repeal Article 125. “I think the publicity surrounding it was probably why it was dropped,” he said. “We were getting a lot of calls, even from our friends in the Senate, who didn’t realize just how serious an issue it was,” McClusky told CNSNews.com.

Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, told CNSNews.com last week that despite working many hours on the Senate version of the bill, he was unaware that it repealed the ban on sodomy and bestiality. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.), who is also a member of the Armed Services Committee, also said he was unaware that the bill his committee produced repealed the ban on sodomy and bestiality. McCain and Graham both voted for the bill in the Senate.

After CNSNews.com publicized the fact that the Senate bill would repeal the sodomy-bestiality ban, White House Spokesman Jay Carney mocked a reporter who asked him about the repeal at White House briefing. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) then sent a letter to Carney rebuking him for dealing with the issue "flippantly" and also another letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta urging that the military's ban on bestiality be retained. Aubrey Sarvis, executive director of the Service Members Legal Defense Network, a top homosexual activist group, said his group was disappointed that the conferees voted to keep Article 125 on the books.

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Pam makes sense to me, yes. It's because I actually listen to what she says.

George Soros propaganda outlets make sense to you. That's what makes your eyes spin.

Different strokes, I suppose.

Hey BTW, speaking of spinning eyes. I notice you linked to LittleGreenfootballs. What happened to those guys? They used to be funny. Loved the Green Helmet Guy. That was hilarious. Now though, every time I see LGB linked they're spewing Prog hate. What turned such funny guys into such haters. They were kind of independent at one time. Now they're totally Prog.
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Despite Plea from Obama Administration, Conference Committee Restores Military Ban on Sodomy, Bestiality
December 15, 2011 - Despite a plea from the Obama administration that the military ban on sodomy and bestiality be repealed, a House-Senate conference committee has restored the ban to the final version of the National Defense Authorization Act.
I'm not clear why you think any of that is related to the thread, but I see you've posted that same nonsense in several threads now. Just an FYI - because of Lawrence v Texas, UCMJ Article 125 hasn't been enforceable since 2003 regarding consensual sex, at least where issues like fraternization aren't involved. You might want to get up to speed before you reveal yourself to be uninformed.
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