Spiritual Causation

Chloe · #1 (**permalink**) 08-18-2011, 12:49 PM

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Behind every health issue and every emotional or spiritual problem resides the "Spirit of Fear." The Spirit of Fear is the Devil's faith working in people by using lies to control them. And if we dwell on those lies long enough, we will begin to believe them, thus resulting in responding to them which can lead to all kinds of problems. We need to discover the root behind our problems.

The things that we experience may be a manifestation of a root. (Refer to the teaching on Fear) But thank God, we have an advocate, Jesus Christ, who is our Savior and the Truth that sets us free! (Romans 7:24-25, 8:2) He gives us His mind (I Cor. 2:16). He gives us the power to cast down all imaginations and lies. (II Cor. 10:5) We need to discover what our weapons are to cast out the lies from our minds. (Ephesians 6:14) The Bible says that the Devil is the father of lies! (John 8:44) So we need to learn more about Truth so we can discern the lies and get rid of them. As we get closer to our Heavenly Father through His Son Jesus, we shall "know" the truth that sets us free. If we stay in fear, we are not made perfect in Love, and it's the love that casts out all fear - God's love. (I John 4:18) we are not living in truth (faith), and long-term fear could manifest all sorts of problems - physically, mentally and spiritually. (Proverbs 26:2)

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Diseases that are incurable, etiology unknown or there is no cure, may constitute a spiritually rooted disease - a disease that comes from our heart condition. (Some dis-eases are passed down through the generations, and those dis-eases derived from someone in your generations that had spiritual issues.) Dis-eases start at a breakdown with someone in relationship. If you have a dis-ease, ask God where your relationship breach is. You may even have a relationship breach with yourself! Matthew 22:38-40 states that we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul and mind and love our neighbor as ourself upon this hang all the laws and the prophets. In otherwords, when we keep this commandment we fullfill all the law! If we restore those areas of relationship that are not perfected in love, I can guarantee you, you will find your peace. Peace produces homeostasis that can produce good health. You do not need to know the "root" of a disease to find peace, I've found that by restoring our relationships with God, self and others, produces better health to deal with the dis-ease you may have.

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Cancer

Cancer cells develop in each of us all day long, but a peaceful heart and mind kills the cells! Peace with others/self/God.

Peace of Mind is the antidote to cancers.

Resulted in outside or inside destruction. Outside could be from radiation, chemicals, PCB’s etc. So begin to be aware of your surroundings, what you put in your mouth, household chemicals, and so forth. Inside results from broken relationship with God, Self or others. Both destroy the anti-unconogens and when 2 are not present in all cells, it results in cancer. So what’s going on inside of you? There’s an old saying that goes, "it eats at you like a cancer". When you start to meditate on hatred against an individual who has wronged you, as you start to focus on that with resentment, anger, hatred, retaliation, bitterness, and unforgiveness. Long term, your body is a chemical manufacturing toxins out of bitterness and anger. These will create a volume of toxins and destroy antioncogenes, cell is compromised and you have cancer, just like that! Helplessness breeds cancer.

Cancer – Throat
Broken spirit, unforgiveness, unresolved conflict with others, self, fear and anxiety

Colon Cancer
Not sure right now the exact root, but unforgiveness is definitely part of it. We need to search our heart and ask God who we have not forgiven from our heart!

Cancer – Pancrease
Rooted in Self- bitterness, self-rejection, self-hatred and self- rejection. The white corpuscles attack the pancrease. Normally this disease is diagnosed in early stages as Diabetes. But long term, has a likelihood of developing into cancer.

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Scripture Reference Produces
Hope deferred makes the heart sick Proverbs 13:12 Depression, self-pity, doubt and unbelief, heart problems, anxiety and stress, parkinsons
A merry heart does good like a medicine Proverbs 17:22 Joy, peace, health
A broken spirit dries up the bones Proverbs 17:22 Brittle bones, allergies, fear
Shame to a husband is rottenness to his bones Proverbs 12:4 When women shame their husbands, it can produce health issues in a husbands bones
A curse causeless shall not come Proverbs 26:2 There is a reason to everything that happens. Take a look at Deuteronomy 28 to see the list of diseases - these are listed as curses.

Envy is rottenness to the bones Proverbs 14:30 Another bone disease
Critical and perverse lips Proverbs 4:24 Bitterness, strive and every evil thing
God has not given us the spirit of fear II Timothy 1:7 Fear is a spirit that God has not given. Many roots to dis-ease starts with fear.
He that hates reproof shall die Proverbs 12:1 Not much clearer than that. The body begins dying at the cellular level. We have time to get things right in our heart long before final death happens.
He that trusts in the Lord happy is he Proverbs 16:20 When we truly trust God, we will have peace and peace produces health and health produces happiness

Death and life are in the power of the tongue Proverbs 18:21 Our words do matter, it can cause others to feel good or to feel terrible which can, if long term, produce illness.

Spiritually Rooted Diseases

Ohh I just know my fatness is Spiritually caused

saltwn · #2 (**permalink**) 08-18-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloe

Spiritually Rooted Diseases

Ohh I just know my fatness is Spiritually caused

Well mine is thyroid related.

I do think spirit influences some things in the body though.

lizzie · #3 (**permalink**) 08-18-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloe

Spiritually Rooted Diseases

Ohh I just know my fatness is Spiritually caused

You're crazy in a good way.

Joking aside, although I don't typically view diseases from a strictly spiritual standpoint, there are definitely personality/ behavioral correlations between types of people and the diseases they get based on my own observation. It's an interesting subject imo. Thanks for posting it.

Chloe · #4 (**permalink**) 08-19-2011, 12:04 AM

I suffer from hypochondria, is that a spiritual dis-ease?

saltwn · #5 (**permalink**) 08-19-2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chloe

I suffer from hypochondria, is that a spiritual dis-ease?

Definitely. And I don't want to know the 'in depth' Chloe, so let's just keep to the surface stuff shall we? Like your relationship to your mom and dad and your first ex husband...

But yeah I have a long time friend who really is a hypochondriac in fact has had several unnecessary operations.

lizzie · #6 (**permalink**) 08-19-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chloe

I suffer from hypochondria, is that a spiritual dis-ease?

Depends on your definition of spiritual.

sky dancer · #7 (**permalink**) 10-02-2011, 11:01 AM

If the body is tight from tension for a long time, it compresses the inner organs too. That can cause problems.

To the extent that prayer and meditation may allow a being to fully relax, then one could say that disease can be "treated" spiritually.

blarset · #8 (**permalink**) 10-02-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sky dancer

If the body is tight from tension for a long time, it compresses the inner organs too. That can cause problems.

To the extent that prayer and meditation may allow a being to fully relax, then one could say that disease can be "treated" spiritually.

Interesting. Stress management.

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subsequent studies of stress in humans by Richard Rahe and others established the view that stress is caused by distinct, measureable life stressors, and further, that these life stressors can be ranked by the median degree of stress they produce (leading to the Holmes and Rahe Stress Scale). Thus, stress was traditionally conceptualized to be a result of external insults beyond the control of those experiencing the stress. More recently, however, it has been argued that external circumstances do not have any intrinsic capacity to produce stress, but instead their effect is mediated by the individual's perceptions, capacities, and understanding.

Stress management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Holmes and Rahe stress scale is a list of 43 stressful life events that can contribute to illness.
Holmes and Rahe stress scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bodo · #9 (**permalink**) 10-03-2011, 07:51 AM

This smacks of newage 'medicine' to me. Feelings cause disease!
But in this case, it's not living a righteous life will cause your illnesses.

This just doesn't jive with real life. If this were the case, young people wouldn't die of cancer and Charles Mason would have been dead long ago.

1069 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-03-2011, 08:16 AM

From the OP:

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Behind every health issue and every emotional or spiritual problem resides the "Spirit of Fear." The Spirit of Fear is the Devil's faith working in people by using lies to control them. And if we dwell on those lies long enough, we will begin to believe them, thus resulting in responding to them which can lead to all kinds of problems. We need to discover the root behind our problems.

The things that we experience may be a manifestation of a root. (Refer to the teaching on Fear) But thank God, we have an advocate, Jesus Christ, who is our Savior and the Truth that sets us free! (Romans 7:24-25, 8:2) He gives us His mind (I Cor. 2:16). He gives us the power to cast down all imaginations and lies. (II Cor. 10:5) We need to discover what our weapons are to cast out the lies from our minds. (Ephesians 6:14) The Bible says that the Devil is the father of lies! (John 8:44) So we need to learn more about Truth so we can discern the lies and get rid of them. As we get closer to our Heavenly Father through His Son Jesus, we shall "know" the truth that sets us free. If we stay in fear, we are not made perfect in Love, and it's the love that casts out all fear - God's love. (I John 4:18) we are not living in truth (faith), and long-term fear could manifest all sorts of problems - physically, mentally and spiritually. (Proverbs 26:2)
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Diseases that are incurable, etiology unknown or there is no cure, may constitute a spiritually rooted disease - a disease that comes from our heart condition. (Some dis-eases are passed down through the generations, and those dis-eases derived from someone in your generations that had spiritual issues.) Dis-eases start at a breakdown with someone in relationship. If you have a dis-ease, ask God where your relationship breach is. You may even have a relationship breach with yourself! Matthew 22:38-40 states that we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul and mind and love our neighbor as ourself upon this hang all the laws and the prophets. In otherwords, when we keep this commandment we fullfill all the law! If we restore those areas of relationship that are not perfected in love, I can guarantee you, you will find your peace. Peace produces homeostasis that can produce good health. You do not need to know the "root" of a disease to find peace, I've found that by restoring our relationships with God, self and others, produces better health to deal with the dis-ease you may have.

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Cancer

Cancer cells develop in each of us all day long, but a peaceful heart and mind kills the cells! Peace with others/self/God.

Peace of Mind is the antidote to cancers.

Resulted in outside or inside destruction. Outside could be from radiation, chemicals, PCB’s etc. So begin to be aware of your surroundings, what you put in your mouth, household chemicals, and so forth. Inside results from broken relationship with God, Self or others. Both destroy the anti-unconogens and when 2 are not present in all cells, it results in cancer. So what’s going on inside of you? There’s an old saying that goes, "it eats at you like a cancer". When you start to meditate on hatred against an individual who has wronged you, as you start to focus on that with resentment, anger, hatred, retaliation, bitterness, and unforgiveness. Long term, your body is a chemical manufacturing toxins out of bitterness and anger. These will create a volume of toxins and destroy antioncogenes, cell is compromised and you have cancer, just like that! Helplessness breeds cancer.

Cancer – Throat
Broken spirit, unforgiveness, unresolved conflict with others, self, fear and anxiety

Colon Cancer
Not sure right now the exact root, but unforgiveness is definitely part of it. We need to search our heart and ask God who we have not forgiven from our heart!

Cancer – Pancrease
Rooted in Self- bitterness, self-rejection, self-hatred and self- rejection. The white corpuscles attack the pancrease. Normally this disease is diagnosed in early stages as Diabetes. But long term, has a likelihood of developing into cancer.
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Scripture Reference Produces
Hope deferred makes the heart sick Proverbs 13:12 Depression, self-pity, doubt and unbelief, heart problems, anxiety and stress, parkinsons
A merry heart does good like a medicine Proverbs 17:22 Joy, peace, health
A broken spirit dries up the bones Proverbs 17:22 Brittle bones, allergies, fear
Shame to a husband is rottenness to his bones Proverbs 12:4 When women shame their husbands, it can produce health issues in a husbands bones
A curse causeless shall not come Proverbs 26:2 There is a reason to everything that happens. Take a look at Deuteronomy 28 to see the list of diseases - these are listed as curses.

Envy is rottenness to the bones Proverbs 14:30 Another bone disease
Critical and perverse lips Proverbs 4:24 Bitterness, strive and every evil thing
God has not given us the spirit of fear II Timothy 1:7 Fear is a spirit that God has not given. Many roots to dis-ease starts with fear.
He that hates reproof shall die Proverbs 12:1 Not much clearer than that. The body begins dying at the cellular level. We have time to get things right in our heart long before final death happens.
He that trusts in the Lord happy is he Proverbs 16:20 When we truly trust God, we will have peace and peace produces health and health produces happiness

Death and life are in the power of the tongue Proverbs 18:21 Our words do matter, it can cause others to feel good or to feel terrible which can, if long term, produce illness.

These are supposedly "quotes" from somewhere, but I don't see that it says where (maybe I'm just overlooking it; I just woke up).

I find them pretty misguided, personally.
There's a respected and beloved forum member here whose wife died of breast cancer only weeks ago. I doubt it was because she didn't love and trust God enough.

To me, this is just more "God loves the privileged! That's why they're privileged! Because they're God's very favorite people! They're God's most obedient children, the ones that love and trust and please him the very most. That's why they're healthy, while others are sick. That's why they're affluent, while others are poor. That's why their children are protected, while the children of others are victimized. God protects and rewards them, because they love and trust him so."

The problem is... according to the Bible, we already know who God's very favorite people are: Jews.
And God has not historically shown his favoritism by protecting them and making them healthy and safe.

Anyway, we all get sick and die in the end- typically in agony- unless of course we're fortunate enough to get run over by steamrollers first. Does that mean that in the end, we all drop the ball, lose the game, stop loving God enough... and thereby lose his divine protection?

Also, look at these pediatric cancer wards full of dying children. Are you really going to argue that they're suffering this way because they don't love and trust God? That if they were only better at pleasing God, he'd make them healthy, just like us?

This is an icky form of "Christianity", if you ask me... and one that ignores an awful lot of obvious facts.

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