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Back to the question you keep avoiding.

So is the pope saying that the condom use is a good thing?
Or a bad thing?
The pope is not really TALKING ABOUT CONDOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think that the Pope should advocate the whole body condom if he is really concerned about a person's health.

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I think that if the pope were to come out and specify this is what he was referring to, it would make this entire thread moot.
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The pope is not really TALKING ABOUT CONDOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
His example, even as you explicitly quoted, IS talking about condoms.
(post 90)

It seems you want to talk about anything BUT the fact that he explicitly chose that example, while I am following the TOPIC of this thread which discusses his example.
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His example, even as you explicitly quoted, IS talking about condoms.
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It seems you want to talk about anything BUT the fact that he explicitly chose that example, while I am following the TOPIC of this thread which discusses his example.
Seriously? He was asked SPECIFICALLY if he was talking about condoms, and he clarified that he was talking about "moralization," "responsibility," "recovering an awareness," "a humanization of sexuality."


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These are the pope's words:


POPE:
There may be a basis in the case of some individuals, as perhaps when a male prostitute uses a condom, where this can be a first step in the direction of a moralization, a first assumption of responsibility, on the way toward recovering an awareness that not everything is allowed and that one cannot do whatever one wants. But it is not really the way to deal with the evil of HIV infection. That can really lie only in a humanization of sexuality.


INTERVIEWER:
Are you saying, then, that the Catholic Church is actually not opposed in principle to the use of condoms?

POPE:
She of course does not regard it as a real or moral solution, but, in this or that case, there can be nonetheless, in the intention of reducing the risk of infection, a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way, of living sexuality.


See Janet Smith's segment Catholic World Report

An INTENTION!!! Note the red portion above--THAT is what he's talking about. The mention of the condom is TOTALLY secondary--it's like suggesting an infected drug addict who uses a personal injection kit and does not share--the pope would not be condoning intravenous dug abuse or suggesting anyone go out and get a kit and start injecting drugs!

However, he would acknowledge the thought given to not spreading the disease and consider it a moral step in the right direction--not because of the kit, but because of the CHOICE.
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