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Old 09-19-2010, 05:45 PM
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I wouldn't be too concerned with Pat's accusation.
It's a passive-aggressive ploy used to try to deter people from pointing out Pat's mistakes...

You'll note that you responded to an open thread that Pat started.
And then, Pat further engaged you by asking you directly a question...
And then, you're supposedly a "stalker" for responding further...

You aren't the first recipient of that ploy.
You won't be the last...
I'm glad that you could take this moment out of your busy moderator duties to express your personal insults towards me.
Care to address the subject of this thread, or the other one that I referred to?
Or would you just prefer to stir the pot-o-shi t?
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Oh, fer cryin' out loud, F66 - Sky herself initiated the comment about she seems to be responding on all of Pat's threads, and if I don't miss my mark, Pat's response regarding a stalker was a touch of humor.

Take a deep breath and say to yourself "it really doesn't matter".
It matters because I am perceived as evil by some.

I should know better than to respond to anything personal that f66 says about me, it almost adds a legitimacy to his posts. Almost.
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I've met a few middle eastern people, only two did I know were Muslims. One had on a turban and the other sat next to us at a counter in a truck-stop somewhere in America and we got to talking. Oh! Make that 3. We met this guy in Vegas when we used to do construction down there.. Him and the counter guy both stated they thought Jews and Muslims were "brothers" on account of Ishmael and both spoke fondly of the Jewish patriarchs as they explained they are their patriarchs too or they recognized them in some way. I met a couple Palestinians. One was a doctor of mine. But I don't know what religion either of them were.
Don't know if it counts but there was a long time caller to a night time trucker show I used to listen to who wondered why he wasn't more thoroughly inspected hauling hazardous material load into a "high security" area. And that was right after nine-eleven. He said something like, "Trust me I look middle eastern and they don't even ask me to show my drivers license...and that worries me..."

They all seemed to be like me and my husband -just out there trying to make a life...ya know?

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Then there was the couple with the two kids who ran a local motel. Right after (within days) of 911 we spoke to them about something-don't recall /maybe they had something for sale -anyway...they seemed egar to stand outside and joke around with us and act "American". I was scared and embarrassed for them at the same time. It was one of those situations hard to explain-you knew there was an under current of worry.
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Oh, fer cryin' out loud, F66 - Sky herself initiated the comment about she seems to be responding on all of Pat's threads...
So?
People on these threads post threads IN ORDER TO GET RESPONSES.
Hardly "stalker" situation.

At best, saying you are responding to a person's threads demonstrates you have an interest in the issues that they are putting out there FOR interest sake...



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... and if I don't miss my mark, Pat's response regarding a stalker was a touch of humor.
Like I said, quite plainly...
Pat's pulled that routine too many times to not recognize what's really going on there...


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Take a deep breath and say to yourself "it really doesn't matter".
Matters enough for you to respond to me, but not enough for me to respond to sky dancer...
Yeah. I note your selective standards there...


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It matters because I am perceived as evil by some.
Again with this passive aggressive nonsense...
And I suppose you think this is just "humorous", GottaGo...


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I should know better than to respond to anything personal that f66 says about me...
You make personal comments about others, and then whine when they do likewise...
Like I said...
Passive-aggressive nonsense...


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Thank you.
Nonetheless, giving Pat a wide berth seems wise.
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So?
People on these threads post threads IN ORDER TO GET RESPONSES.
Hardly "stalker" situation.

At best, saying you are responding to a person's threads demonstrates you have an interest in the issues that they are putting out there FOR interest sake...




Like I said, quite plainly...
Pat's pulled that routine too many times to not recognize what's really going on there...



Matters enough for you to respond to me, but not enough for me to respond to sky dancer...
Yeah. I note your selective standards there...



Again with this passive aggressive nonsense...
And I suppose you think this is just "humorous", GottaGo...



You make personal comments about others, and then whine when they do likewise...
Like I said...
Passive-aggressive nonsense...



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I've met a few middle eastern people, only two did I know were Muslims. ..........

edited:[/B] Then there was the couple with the two kids who ran a local motel. Right after (within days) of 911 we spoke to them about something-don't recall /maybe they had something for sale -anyway...they seemed egar to stand outside and joke around with us and act "American". I was scared and embarrassed for them at the same time. It was one of those situations hard to explain-you knew there was an under current of worry.
I work with alot of Muslims and are personal friends with several, but with even the ones I consider good friends, there's always a "formalness" that seemingly cannot be overcome. The Muslims I know, I generally like very much. That being said, they are all highly educated and have some very American secular traits and habits that help them adapt to our society. I don't have negative feelings about Muslims in general, but I do worry a little that the moderate ones fear the radicals- enough so that it could eventually cause a rift and a divide due to confict of cultures. I hope I'm wrong.
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I've met a few middle eastern people, only two did I know were Muslims. One had on a turban and the other sat next to us at a counter in a truck-stop somewhere in America and we got to talking. Oh! Make that 3. We met this guy in Vegas when we used to do construction down there.. Him and the counter guy both stated they thought Jews and Muslims were "brothers" on account of Ishmael and both spoke fondly of the Jewish patriarchs as they explained they are their patriarchs too or they recognized them in some way. I met a couple Palestinians. One was a doctor of mine. But I don't know what religion either of them were.
Don't know if it counts but there was a long time caller to a night time trucker show I used to listen to who wondered why he wasn't more thoroughly inspected hauling hazardous material load into a "high security" area. And that was right after nine-eleven. He said something like, "Trust me I look middle eastern and they don't even ask me to show my drivers license...and that worries me..."

They all seemed to be like me and my husband -just out there trying to make a life...ya know?

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Then there was the couple with the two kids who ran a local motel. Right after (within days) of 911 we spoke to them about something-don't recall /maybe they had something for sale -anyway...they seemed egar to stand outside and joke around with us and act "American". I was scared and embarrassed for them at the same time. It was one of those situations hard to explain-you knew there was an under current of worry.

when I lived in vegas I met some muslims and smoked some weed with them, they were allright. That was a long time ago. But alas I met a new muslim online who actually does answer questions, he seems nice like a regular person. So I guess I am just against extremists of any religion.
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I oppose Islam completely.
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They have fallen for a false belief of a god.
Just like christians have.


As long as they use their belief for good and not evil, I have no problem with it.
"Good and Evil" are religious terms, by the way, and dependent upon the judgment of a superior, external entity.
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"Good and Evil" are religious terms, by the way, and dependent upon the judgment of a superior, external entity.
Quite frankly, I'm not sure that they are mutually exclusive, but merely two sides of the same coin. In religious texts of more than religion, God is referred to as "All", denoting to me that maybe mankind is the guilty party of seeing things in black and white rather than "God" being opposite of "Devil". We do have a dual nature as humans, and maybe this is a way for us to deny the negative side of our humanness. Just a thought.
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