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The President & the Executive Branch Discuss Obama Erases Pro-Democracy Money for Iran at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by nursej007 Radio reaches far more people. Heck, I live in the US and I don't have internet ...

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Old 06-22-2009, 12:06 AM
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Radio reaches far more people.

Heck, I live in the US and I don't have internet at my home... but I CAN, if the radio's placed just right, get radio stations from Mexico, New Mexico, and California. If I want to drive to the top of the pass I can get Oklahoma.
right, right. But we're talking about Iran. I just don't know that much about their access. And it looks like they have great Internet access from somewhere.
I do promote getting the programing that tells about the rest of the world and how they are reacting, etc. i don't like that satellite radio is a pay for service, but I guess someone had to pay for it. I would think the government would promote that or just rent a channel- buy one , whatever-ya know?
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Take a look at this Iranian Intelligence Ministry video:

YouTube - Iranian Propaganda Video featuring John McCain, George Soros

It's really rather funny -- comical, in fact. But the point is that we can't be seen as giving these kinds of lies any credibility by directly interfering with events in Iran. To do so plays right into the hands of Ahmadinejad and Khamenei, who would like nothing better than to blame us for the demonstrations that threaten to take them down. Obama, at least, is smart enough not to make their task any easier.
"We are the Guardians of your information." Yeah right, bud.
Thank you for posting this. I wondered how in the world they got away with snowing people in this age of information. Maybe in a more primitive culture it might still work, but I think Iranians are probably aware this stuff is junk.
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I like what George Will said this morning:

The president is being roundly criticized for insufficient, rhetorical support for what's going on over there. It seems to me foolish criticism. The people in the streets know full well what the American attitude toward the regime is,
But do they, Obama has clearly said he wants to sit down with with the little Hitler with no preconditions, and he equated him with Moussavi saying there is no difference.


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John McCain and others went quite crazy insisting President Obama declare whose side America was on, as if the world doesn't know whose side America is on. 'In the cause of freedom, America cannot be neutral,' said Rep. Mike Pence. Who says it's neutral?
It wasn't declaring a side, but a declaration of condemnation for the violence and our position that freedom of assembly and open and honest elections and freedom of speech are basic human rights.


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My view is that [B]it was very, very irresponsible for John McCain to say
It's not about what McCain said, it's about what the leader of free world had not said.

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Anything that the United States says that puts us totally behind one of the contenders, behind Mousavi, would be a handicap for that person. And I think it’s the proper position to take that the people of Iran have to make that decision.
No one has asked him to say he is for Mousavi, what we are for are basic human rights which are being stomped on in Iraq.

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Of course, we have to state our fundamental convictions of freedom of speech, free elections, and I don’t see how President Obama could say less than he has
I agree saying less than nothing is pretty hard to do.

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, and even that is considered intolerable meddling.
How come the left always supports the criticism other countries lay on us but oppose us stating our views?


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Plenty of people on the right (the ones who aren't stooping to take easy cheap shots against the President) are able to see that Obama is handling this correctly. For others, though, the chance to demagogue and grandstand this issue is just too hard to pass up.
And many believe the leader of the free world should lead. Who else is going to do it?
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But do they, Obama has clearly said he wants to sit down with with the little Hitler with no preconditions, and he equated him with Moussavi saying there is no d...
You should view that propaganda video. It explains a lot.
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