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Old 11-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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Trump says he might fire Fauci. Technically, he canít.

If this douche gets reelected, America is done for.
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but why can't he fire Fauci?

Fauci is a gov't employee correct?
Working under the Administration branch.
Does Fauci have some kind of special untouchable status or Union contract?
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Default Re: Trump says he might fire Fauci. Technically, he canít.

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but why can't he fire Fauci?

Fauci is a gov't employee correct?
Working under the Administration branch.
Does Fauci have some kind of special untouchable status or Union contract?
Technically, the president of the United States cannot directly fire Fauci, letís say by a tweet, mainly because he is not a political appointee. As a career federal employee and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984, Fauci is protected by federal civil service regulations that shield him from being fired or demoted for political reasons.

Fauci could be removed, but it would imply a complicated process layered with civil service protections that require the government agency to provide evidence that there is a just cause for dismissal, including failure to follow orders or misconduct.

The process to remove him would need to be initiated by someone in Fauciís chain of command, such as the director of the National Institutes of Health or the health and human services secretary, which is unlikely considering he is an esteemed figure in the scientific and medical community.

However, should that be the case, Fauci would need to be notified about what the allegation was, and he would then have the opportunity to respond and present evidence to the Merit Systems Protection Board that such action was not warranted. He could also appeal the boardís decision in court.

While these rules are still in place, a controversial executive order issued by Trump about two weeks ago could remove these long-held service protections from tens of thousands of civil servants, making it easier to dismiss them with little cause or recourse.

Rep. Don Beyer (D), whose Northern Virginia district includes more than 80,000 federal workers, said the order is intended to ďsend a clear message that conscientious dissent will not be tolerated,Ē and could target people like Fauci.

ďTrump clearly sees one of his top priorities if he is reelected as a settling of scores with civil servants like Dr. Fauci whom he regards as insufficiently loyal,Ē Beyer told The Washington Post.
Trumpís suggestion of firing Fauci came after the expert gave grim warnings of what is possible in the upcoming months, including rising coronavirus cases that could surpass 100,000 a day.

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but why can't he fire Fauci?

Fauci is a gov't employee correct?
Working under the Administration branch.
Does Fauci have some kind of special untouchable status or Union contract?
You have to admit that it's a really bad closing argument.
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You have to admit that it's a really bad closing argument.
Actually, it was just some questions.

Do you answers for any of them?

I have a question myself. Did the President actually say he wanted to fire Fauci?

No, he didn't. I quote from the OP link;
"Don’t tell anybody, but let me wait until a little bit after the election,” Trump told his supporters. “I appreciate the advice.”

It was the crowd that said "Fire Fauci!"

Typical Washington Compost news article that dresses an inside joke up like he said it plain and out loud as policy.

If Trump wants Fauci gone, the doctor will be packing his stethoscopes. The only obstacle would be if Trump loses the election and therefore the mandate power to get it done. Given Fauci's flip flops on Covid-19 his credibility, and that of his office, is at stake. The Pesident may have good reasons to push him out.

Frankly, I doubt that is his intention. So the WA-Post just started a tempest in a tea pot. It sells papers.
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